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The Second Amendment rights of more than 4 million...at risk thanks to Republicans in Congress
Fox News ^ | March 22, 2018 | John R. Lott

Posted on 03/22/2018 9:07:42 PM PDT by familyop

Congressional Republicans are jeopardizing the Second Amendment rights of 4.2 million senior citizens. At the same time, they have voted to funnel tens of millions of dollars to gun control organizations and support other actions that Democrats will love. All of this is wrapped up in the giant $1.3 trillion spending bill that the House of Representatives approved Thursday on a 256-167 vote and sent to the Senate.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; join; nra; vote
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To: familyop

Do you suggest voting for those that passed this POS or for a democrat?


21 posted on 03/22/2018 10:39:26 PM PDT by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: familyop

Where is Rand Paul when we need him? He’d do the country a favor if he blocks the Senate taking action on this steaming turd!


22 posted on 03/22/2018 10:40:35 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: greeneyes
"Better tweet if you have it. Send an email if you don’t. Otherwise it will be law and Congress will be out of DC. They don’t want to be there when the gun grabber march shows up."

You were right. That was fast.

Senate passes $1.3 trillion spending bill, averting another government shutdown
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/23/senate-passes-1-3-trillion-spending-bill-averting-another-government-shutdown.html

So I, for one, will join yet another organization for our Second Amendment rights.

It's pathetic, that the last time a figure was mentioned, only about 5 million Americans were said to be members of the NRA. There are more than 320 million people in this country, and most of them own firearms. Many more than 5 million have bought firearms over the past 15 years.

But most of them don't want to defend our Second Amendment. Pathetic, selfish and un-American. The should each go back to the "old country" that their very recent ancestors came from in my opinion (especially those hordes of foreign minds near the coasts). They don't belong here.


23 posted on 03/22/2018 10:48:37 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: CottonBall

At least I’m not one of the trolls here calling for clearing the way for their Democrats to pass every gun control bill.


24 posted on 03/22/2018 10:53:10 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: CottonBall

...the same trolls here trying to get more Democrats into Congress to impeach President Trump.


25 posted on 03/22/2018 10:54:38 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: vette6387

Paul did speak loudly against the bill, but he didn’t get the support that he needed from others. Too many government employees with too much influence here from big government spending. That’s why the bill passed so quickly.


26 posted on 03/22/2018 10:57:16 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

There are three kinds of gun laws:

- Some, such as the ban on lawsuits against firearms manufacturers over guns that operated correctly but were used by criminals, are good laws that protect our rights.

- Some, such as restrictions on bump stocks, or on threaded barrels and bayonet lugs, or the gun-of-the-month rules, are symbolic and meant to stigmatize self-defense to shift more power to the government over the course of many years, but do not cross a red line.

- Some, such as broader limits on the functionality for handguns or rifles, cross a red line.

Until a red line is crossed, the answer is to always vote, and in particular to be active in primaries and to vote in primary elections. Once those red lines are crossed, the answer may get extremely ugly. Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed - and that consent can be withdrawn. We have no moral obligation to obey unconstitutional laws: that decision comes down to a balance between fear of government prosecuting us for ‘crimes’, and fear of government or its enabling thugs allied oppressing us and our children because we failed to commit those ‘crimes’.


27 posted on 03/23/2018 12:38:20 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: familyop

THAT’S ANOTHER PART OF THAT BILL THAT’S GETTING IGNORED TRUMP MIST FACE A BARRAGE URGING HIM TO VETO

Where’s the commercial OR VIDEO showing a toddler happily playing suddenly being demanded to pay its thousands of dollars share of the national debt ? When the toddler breaks into screaming HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME tears ?
http://www.theusmat.com/index.htm


28 posted on 03/23/2018 12:53:44 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: familyop

THAT’S ANOTHER PART OF THAT BILL THAT’S GETTING IGNORED TRUMP MIST FACE A BARRAGE URGING HIM TO VETO

Where’s the commercial OR VIDEO showing a toddler happily playing suddenly being demanded to pay its thousands of dollars share of the national debt ? When the toddler breaks into screaming HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME tears ?
http://www.theusmat.com/index.htm


29 posted on 03/23/2018 12:54:51 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Mosesdapoet aka L.J.Keslin another gem posted in the wilderness)
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To: mosesdapoet

That’s a tough one. Both houses of Congress voted extremely close to enough for an override, and there’s the impeachment threat with midterm elections near. It’s a very bad situation. The President needs to get all the support he can get from those congressional gangs of pork mongers.


30 posted on 03/23/2018 1:20:47 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Love these monthly chuck n Nancy deals.. we are really winning with these. Let me guess, no wall funding
But maybe if we give up everything and lay down we can keep due process. Can we, huh?
That was the most hostile phrase against constitutional freedom I can recall from a sitting prez of America. I will never forget.


31 posted on 03/23/2018 3:12:50 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

FR changed dramatically during the primaries and became infected with people who are ok giving up guns, never building a wall, spending a Trillion dollars on shovel ready jobs... and they call us the trolls. Suddenly folks were joining FR in numbers not seen since I have been here.
Their tactics are straight out of Alinsky... they are plants. I left FR for a while because it was invaded. It still is, but i trust FR for news and I haven’t found a replacement yet.
I think they will go away if we stop laying down and taking it. Truth always wins.


32 posted on 03/23/2018 3:22:41 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018.)
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To: vette6387

It passed 65-33.


33 posted on 03/23/2018 3:46:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: mosesdapoet
Where’s the commercial OR VIDEO showing a toddler happily playing suddenly being demanded to pay its thousands of dollars share of the national debt ? When the toddler breaks into screaming HOW COULD THEY DO THIS TO ME tears ?

The people in Congress know they'll be long gone when it happens. They must have an airtight plan for their grandkids, too, because those are the kids you're talking about.

Or maybe they think it's hopeless anyway.

What a mess.

34 posted on 03/23/2018 4:49:02 AM PDT by IncPen ("Inside of every progressive is a Totalitarian screaming to get out" ~ David Horowitz)
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To: familyop

” The examples in the news before were PTSD cases involving old veterans. “

This is also one of my concerns. After reading the article, it appears agencies have power equal to or greater than a court order classifying someone as too mentally incompetent to own a gun. I have read similar horror stories as the very people laying their lives on the line (vets) for their country having their guns taken away. What gratitude!!

I personally know a vet with PTSD that does not want it made formal by applying for VA benefits. Whatever amount he will lose in compensation is what he’s paying to keep his 2A rights. Talk about someone that feels totally screwed by the same country he defended.

And as this country is screwing vets like this left and right, more and more young men and women are sent off to new wars to be set up for the same screw job.


35 posted on 03/23/2018 5:02:13 AM PDT by redfreedom
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To: DouglasKC

“I don’t know how Trump avoids this.”

I hope he doesn’t care. He’s already shown everyone at this level that he’s not afraid of them, and that he can dominate them at every level.

They need to be reminded that Trump is the guy that lobbed missiles into syria without their approval.

Trump really is a mastermind against this new “deep state” initiative to usher in Communism at every level. But he’s also an anti-gun New Yorker. We need to understand that balance.


36 posted on 03/23/2018 5:24:19 AM PDT by Celerity
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To: familyop
And no, trolls, the answer is not to stay home and refuse to vote in the midterm elections.

Does there ever come a point at which not supporting those that stab you in the back becomes operative?

37 posted on 03/23/2018 5:49:04 AM PDT by MortMan (We are living in interesting times.)
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To: familyop

The Second Amendment rights are the rights of ALL AMERICANS, not just 4 million!


38 posted on 03/23/2018 7:20:13 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: MortMan
"Does there ever come a point at which not supporting those that stab you in the back becomes operative?"

Yes! When you have nothing to lose either way in the long run.

This short window of time is our chance to preserve some of our rights a little longer without any terrible, violent, immediate price to pay. As for the debt collapse, that's probably inevitable. One can see it in the debt clock of each state, too, after a quick search. ...and in many other kinds of debts.


39 posted on 03/23/2018 7:39:03 AM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: familyop

Hopefully Trump doesn’t sign this.


40 posted on 03/23/2018 7:40:27 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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