To: MNDude
Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from congress. Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress. Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information. That claim is not the correct framework/context. Congress as a whole (reps, staff and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages. However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why? Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, theres a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime. Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and youll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ. In this example the prosecutor, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General. ♦Lastly, where all this appears to be going. It is not likely there will be a second special counsel per se. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. Its more than likely theres already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected. You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental. The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved. Add into this likelihood the complicit ideological media who will go absolutely bananas about any single member of their team being indicted; and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well
you see the picture. The left only know one narrative: Jeff Sessions is doing Trumps evil bidding. Thats it. Thats the drumbeat. 24/7/365 Thats the narrative pushed over and over. Look at their reaction to Andrew McCabes simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?
2 posted on
03/19/2018 9:49:06 AM PDT by
MNDude
To: MNDude
You know what? No one reads that mess you just posted. Ever heard of a paragraph break?
3 posted on
03/19/2018 9:57:45 AM PDT by
Cobra64
(Common sense isn't common any more.)
To: MNDude
Please sprinkle these liberally within your posts: <P>
5 posted on
03/19/2018 9:58:44 AM PDT by
Yo-Yo
(Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
To: MNDude
8 posted on
03/19/2018 10:04:02 AM PDT by
M Kehoe
To: MNDude
18 posted on
03/19/2018 11:04:09 AM PDT by
Principled
(IG: @oversight.gov follow it!)
To: MNDude
28 posted on
03/19/2018 2:34:32 PM PDT by
Windflier
(Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
To: MNDude
Since there was a wall of bellyaching rather than actually helping out:
Accusations of DOJ hiding evidence from Congress. Several congressional representatives have stated the information about Judge Rudolph Contreras was not readily know because his association with Peter Strzok was redacted within text messages sent from DOJ to congress. Therefore the DOJ is trying to hide damaging information. That claim is not the correct framework/context.
Congress as a whole (reps, staff, and investigators) can go to the DOJ and look at ALL unredacted text messages. However, if congressional staff wish to take copies with them the copies must be redacted. Why? Because, just like the Contreras issue within the Strzok and Page text messages, theres a possibility specific texts are evidence of a crime.
Go back to December 2nd, 2017, when the first reports of the IG investigative findings were hitting the news media and youll note IG Horowitz said he has no issues with congressional oversight getting his investigative evidence with the approval FROM the DOJ. In this example, the prosecutor, working with Horowitz, has to make a determination if a potential criminal case would be compromised by allowing the release of specific information/evidence gathered by the Inspector General.
Lastly, where all this appears to be going. It is not likely there will be a second special counsel per se. With a prosecutor already working with Inspector General Horowitz that person already has a thorough knowledge of all the evidence. As soon as the IG publishes his report, the prosecutor can begin subpoenaing witnesses. Its more than likely theres already a Grand Jury seated somewhere hearing the criminal evidence he/she has carved out from the overwhelming IG evidence as collected.
You and I might be frustrated with the pace of the activity for a myriad of righteous reasons. However, we must also remind ourselves of the scale and scope of the corruption here that is inherent within the BIG PICTURE. All of this was done on purpose. None of this was accidental.
The prosecutor could, likely would, be having to outline the biggest political conspiracy in the history of politics. It is entirely possible officials within the CIA, NSA, DOJ, FBI, State Department, ODNI, and national security apparatus along with the Obama White House, Clinton campaign officials, politicians, career bureaucrats and possibly judges are all entwined and involved. Add into this likelihood the complicit ideological media who will go absolutely bananas about any single member of their team being indicted; and a better than average chance the media will follow instructions from their leadership and send tens-of-thousands of low-info sycophants into the streets in protest, and well
you see the picture. The left only know one narrative: Jeff Sessions is doing Trumps evil bidding. Thats it. Thats the drumbeat. 24/7/365 Thats the narrative pushed over and over. Look at their reaction to Andrew McCabes simple firing, which Trump had nothing to do with, and think about what their response would be to indictments?
29 posted on
03/19/2018 2:43:23 PM PDT by
Maigrey
(Life, for a liberal, is one never-ending game of Calvinball. - Giotto)
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