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Whistleblower Says Illegal Aliens Have ‘Taken Over Every Trade’ in CA Construction (T)
Breitbart ^ | 14 March 2018 | John Binder

Posted on 03/15/2018 6:09:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625

A whistleblower in the southern California construction industry says illegal alien workers have “taken over every trade” in the business while driving down wages by an estimated 40 percent.

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Blaine Taylor, the whistleblower, said the construction industry in California once offered a starting wage of about $45 an hour in the late 1980s. Fast-forward to 2018 — nearly two decades into when illegal aliens began flooding the industry — he now says that wages have fallen by more than half, standing at just $11 an hour.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; blainetaylor; buildthefence; california; construction; daca; dreamact; dreamers; illegals; immigration; invasion
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To: PapaBear3625
I had to read the article to sort out the wage levels the “whistle blower” was describing. First I don't doubt that wages have been depressed by illegal workers in the trades. However, I think the amount of the depression at the worker end is not as radical as some seem to concluding.

I think that the $45/hr refers to the amount that the contractor charges to his client as the current rate with the wage to a master level construction carpenter that can run a job at about $25/hr. That's about a 1.8 multiplier, which strikes me as high since their business model is to immediately layoff when a job is complete and no other work is available to roll into.

I am retired now from consulting engineering and am acquainted with multipliers. For example, both white collar salaried workers and skilled techs (likely with a college AS or BS degree or military training) will have a target 3.0 multiplier. These folks are permanent employees not temps that come and go as billable projects come and go. The higher multiple is to cover the wages during the slack times when there is zero billable so as not to layoff.

On demand, I can contact various temp companies that can provide me with any trade or skill and provide me with workers that are US citizens or legally resident aliens with a green card plus the workers are covered under workers comp and their temp company employer is insured. The rates to me are fair and the salary to the worker in line with local rates.

I believe that the tax issue is the driver for the illegal workers in the trades. By tax issue, this really means tax fraud initiated by the employer to put more $$$ in their pocket and facilitating illegals doing their frauds. Hmmmm sounds a bit like a RICO operation. The IRS and DOJ could crush this and since they have not are complicit.

61 posted on 03/15/2018 8:27:31 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: jetson
DUH! This was being screamed about fifteen years ago and someone just now is realizing it?

People out west knew this 25+ years ago...And illegals have done the same thing to many other industries.

Some people have really short memories.

62 posted on 03/15/2018 8:34:55 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Hootowl99

You’re wrong pal.


63 posted on 03/15/2018 8:36:15 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PapaBear3625

Throw in the entire heating, ventilation, and air conditioning (HVAC) industry, landscaping, warehousing, food industry, etc, etc...


64 posted on 03/15/2018 8:40:22 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PapaBear3625

We have had the same Californicating Home since the late 1970’s.

Our roof was about 8 years old done by a lily white roofing owner and apparently a herd of illegals, and we had leaks.

Every time they sent out repair guys, with the exception of one guy, English was impossible for them to communicate with. I would demand the English speaking guy when a leak happened.

We had the roof replaced in a couple of years by the same outfit, recommended by most builders and of course the service clubs.

That roof had problems, and by this time, I told the owner, either he came out or the one amigo, who knew roofing, repairs and could speak English.

We had one more roof by the same outfit to meet insulation codes. Of course it had leaks too, and the good amigo fixed those.

3 years ago we needed another new roof. Our contractor recommended a friend, a good Irish guy. He, his brothers, a son and a couple of long time honky roofers put on a new roof with a lower bid than the other guy.

The roof had a leak at one of the new skylights. The owner was out a few hours after I texted him. He and his brother fixed the leak.

A year later, another new skylight leaked, and the owner sent out one of his Honky guys. In fact the guy who had installed the sky light. Again, he was out in a few hours and fixed the leak.

Our “new” roofer is in very high demand as people are becoming wary of the other roofers.


65 posted on 03/15/2018 8:58:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Dems are having trouble with their MAMA campaign (Make America Mexico Again) versus MAGA!)
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To: PapaBear3625
the construction industry in California once offered a starting wage of about $45 an hour in the late 1980s.

There's your problem right there. I worked construction in Indiana in 1979-1981 to help put myself through college, and entry pay then was $6.50/hour. The $45/hour is clearly a union wage, and they have just as clearly priced themselves out of the realistic market.

Money is like water; it follows the path of least resistance and seeks its own level. If you are overpriced, the buyer will find a less expensive alternative. If it's sufficiently overpriced, the buyer won't care about legal niceties.

66 posted on 03/15/2018 9:04:11 AM PDT by henkster (Monsters from the Id.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Southern California loved slavery in 1859. So much that they wanted to split California and form the territory of Colorado.

The Pico Act was an 1859-60, attempt by Californians and pro-slavery Southerners to separate the southern counties of California into a separate Territory of the United States. It was voted on, signed by the governor, and sent to Washington DC for action. The Civil War got in the way.

Seems they still like cheap, cheap labor.

Since the Pico Act was never voted on, can it be revived and voted on to split up California into red and blue states?


67 posted on 03/15/2018 9:12:20 AM PDT by Yulee
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To: dragnet2
It does not surprise me that some part could be off. Your comment does not help figger out where though. Please elaborate and I'm not your pal.
68 posted on 03/15/2018 9:14:14 AM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: PapaBear3625

I don’t doubt it.


69 posted on 03/15/2018 9:17:04 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: central_va; ridesthemiles

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Why confuse the issues of regulations with illegal labor? What is the point except to muddy the waters?
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Confuse? They BOTH stem from the same root cause: GOVT

Regulations - the explosive grown of ILLEGAL govt = ever increasing cost to the taxpayer\Citizen.
Illegal labor - govt, tasked w/ defending/protecting our borders, as well as enforcing immigration, *NOT* doing once of its few/lawful duties\responsibilities.

If govt were its rightful size/scope BOTH would be far less of an issue than We have allowed today. IMO, the latter cannot exist w/o the former.


70 posted on 03/15/2018 9:36:35 AM PDT by i_robot73 (One could not count the number of *solutions*, if only govt followed\enforced the Constitution.)
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To: PapaBear3625

It’s such a shame to see this happening in such a beautiful state.


71 posted on 03/15/2018 9:52:04 AM PDT by EdnaMode
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Exactly. That’s why it’s people are leaving in droves and it has the highest poverty rate in the country. CA. libs have killed the “Golden Goose”, that was the Golden State.


72 posted on 03/15/2018 9:56:43 AM PDT by deputytess (Freedom is in peril. Defend it with all your might.t)
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To: Terry Mross

Yes, it’s even a little more than 75%.


73 posted on 03/15/2018 10:00:28 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Yep. I worked in Texas as a carpenters assistant in 1980-81 at a pay rate of $8/hr-$9/hr.

I recently saw an ad for the same job at $8/hr-$9/hr.

With inflation, the job should pay $23/hr-$24/hr, just to stay even.

It hasn't, because Juan, Jose and Pablito are there.

I note that home builders are not selling the homes for 40%-50% less than 1980-- that's where the difference is going.

Illegal immigration is all about American businesses breaking the law to get a higher profit. It's not different than tax cheating or fraud or any other unlawful, profit generating activity, and shouldn't be tolerated any more than those are.

74 posted on 03/15/2018 10:02:55 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: TallahasseeConservative

I’m not “blaming” the Unions. I’m wondering why the unions are not screaming about illegals costing them jobs and money - and why they are not opposing every democrat who supports illegal aliens.

It seems the fickle far-left has abandoned a long-ime loyal constituency for the flavor of the day/year/decade.


75 posted on 03/15/2018 10:03:40 AM PDT by WayneS (An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. - Winston Churchill.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“starting wage of about $45 an hour in the late 1980s. Fast-forward to 2018 — nearly two decades into when illegal aliens began flooding the industry — he now says that wages have fallen by more than half, standing at just $11 an hour.”

And the builders passed on the savings......


76 posted on 03/15/2018 10:07:54 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: BobL
"Now we get to the rut of the issue. Charging $45 per hour in the late 80s (roughly $80 per hour inflation-adjusted) had to be due to unions...and so people responded...and that has us where we are now.

So, I credit the UNIONS for this nightmare that California has become."

An excellent point, but one that's manifesting itself across the entire nation (just at a more recent & slower pace in other places).

77 posted on 03/15/2018 10:24:48 AM PDT by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: PapaBear3625

California now has huge poverty and huge public debt. Both are the direct result of illegal Mexican aliens. The feds need to take control with marshal law.


78 posted on 03/15/2018 11:40:14 AM PDT by raiderboy ( "...if we have to close down our government, weÂ’re building that wall" DJT)
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Too bad they’re not returning home with their work ethic.


79 posted on 03/15/2018 11:45:20 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TallahasseeConservative; WayneS

“Can’t blame the Unions on this one.”

Yes, we can.

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=TcGqWpXUPIuo8AO1zKXYCg&q=seiu+support+for+undocumented+immigrants&oq=seiu+support+for+undocumented&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.33i160k1l2.795.7591.0.9921.30.29.0.0.0.0.93.1893.29.29.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..1.27.1746.0..0j0i131k1j0i22i30k1j33i22i29i30k1j33i21k1.0.kqbpgNwBhME


80 posted on 03/15/2018 11:53:23 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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