“Otherwise, you lose, period.”
Nonsense. Cherry-picking is just as invalid from you as it is from him.
And what are you doing pinging in people who have been arguing with me on other topics? Trying to get a mob together? This is a cult with some people, and no amount of evidence or argumentation can shake their belief. I don’t propose to become entangled with that again.
As for contradicting “in any way,” there is a large amount of material doing just that in the public record. There’s everything from diaries to filmed statements of former Confederates. Any man of good faith is free to find it for himself, without demanding that I type it in here.
Of course, that would require that a person be more interested in finding the truth than in “winning” online arguments.
But there's no "cherry-picking" when the long list of quotes posted by rockrr is totally representative of the entire body of reasons published by secessionists at the time.
dsc: "And what are you doing pinging in people who have been arguing with me on other topics?
Trying to get a mob together?"
Nonsense, simply courtesy to those who've engaged you on this thread.
As for "mob", there's no such thing as a "mob" on Free Republic, simply a number of people interested in the same topic.
dsc: "This is a cult with some people, and no amount of evidence or argumentation can shake their belief.
I don’t propose to become entangled with that again."
Total nonsense.
The fact is, you have no "evidence or argumentation" which could convince anybody not already committed to your point of view.
dsc: "As for contradicting 'in any way,' there is a large amount of material doing just that in the public record.
There’s everything from diaries to filmed statements of former Confederates."
No, in fact there is nothing -- zero, zip, nada data -- from the time, supporting the Lost Cause myth.
All of it, every bit, comes long after the fact by people hoping to explain the inexplicable.
Indeed, by definition, the difference between real history and myth is what we have evidence for versus what was concocted after the fact to justify it.
dsc: "Any man of good faith is free to find it for himself, without demanding that I type it in here.
Of course, that would require that a person be more interested in finding the truth than in 'winning' online arguments."
Sure, on occasion I've attempted to read books supporting the Lost Cause, but could never get through them, because they are so full of nonsense & lies, they just make me angry.
So, if you wish to argue the Lost Cause here, you'll need to do better than that.
But you won't, will you, because you have no data and your beliefs aren't based on data anyway, are they?
Instead: "no amount of evidence or argumentation can shake their your belief," right?