Posted on 02/22/2018 12:31:40 PM PST by John S Mosby
Just months before Nikolas Cruz killed 17 at his former high school in South Florida, the host family who had taken him in immediately after his mother's death warned local law enforcement that the 19-year-old had "used a gun against people before" and "has put the gun to others' heads in the past," according to records obtained by CNN. It's the latest indication of how law enforcement encountered warning signs about Cruz's violent behavior before he attacked students and teachers.....
In November, Cruz's mother died after being diagnosed with pneumonia. Lynda Cruz was a widow raising her two adopted teenage boys by herself in Broward County, according to acquaintances CNN interviewed. Without anyone to turn to after their mother's death, Nikolas Cruz and his younger brother Zachary were both taken in by Rocxanne Deschamps.....
(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...
What you have written here has connected more dots than the past week’s worth of “journalism” ever would. The information about flaky RU/Eastern Bloc “adoptions” is legion, especially as regards mental impairments from fetal alcohol and other causes rampant in that region. This makes perfect sense when looking at the shooter’s physical characteristics.
Adopted parents— Cuban American. Cruz. OK, know that.
Nikolai as a russian name often anglicized intentionally at time of legalization/adoption.
Not any “formal” anglicization method, and have several families am aware of where Kazahkstanis (and askenazi, oddly enough) had some “re-naming” of adoptees. My question would be one only available to the adoption documents.
In recent years/generations there have been many children of former Cuban/Russian parents (from the days of soviet/cuban, “cooperation”) who have matriculated in some fashion into the US. Their names are all over South Florida and NYC/Jersey. Here’s a “sample” kind of name, naturalized or not— “Mirta Nicoloff”.. (female, married to a real Russian, who married in Cuba, no kidding).
This whole story has more twists and turns...
Farmer Jones website has even more twists ans turns,.
Very good question. He was in 24 hour involuntary commitment to mental health (county) done by the court appointed administrator for his adoptive mother’s estate. The executor is female, can’t recall name, and do not know (since this would be either from an actual will or the Court appointing her) a juvenile’s guardian, in that capacity- able to do such a thing. But yeah... .where is the brother Zachary?
$800K? Were the parents drug dealers? That might have something to do with the kids’ behavior.
Woman who cared for Florida shooter wants control of his inheritance (had brother committed)
NYPost | February 20, 2018 | Laurie Mizrahi and Max Jaeger
Posted on 02/20/2018 5:48:32 PM PST by maggief
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3633817/posts
Nikolas Cruz’s younger brother was Involuntarily Committed to a Psychiatric Facility
NY Daily News | February 17, 2018 | Jessica Chia & Liam Quinn
Posted on 02/17/2018 8:51:14 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3632889/posts
Thanks Ernest.
Agreed. I have been searching the net repeatedly today for evidence of young Mr. Cruz's origins. Thus far I have found nothing.
Yes they are. They knew this and didn't make absolutely certain that he had no access to guns?
Parkland bump for later....
Eye,
Disagree. Family was a factor, but...
Law unenforcement owns this.
Ed D
They both carry their own responsibility. I’m sure civil and criminal laws could be applied that are written specifically to cover parental/guardian liability and culpability.
http://www.wnd.com/2018/02/stunning-list-cops-stop-dozens-of-school-attacks-before-they-happen/
The list is incomplete.
Search “kentucky school threat arrests” alone.
Intervention works.
We’re on the same page.
Parents have their bit, but once it reaches law enforcement, they own the reasonable response.
...and where LEOs engage, lives are saved.
Unfortunately, not in this case. LEO, FBI FAILED!
I agree with all of that. None of it absolves his guardians for their inaction. The laws reflect that too.
I believe in personal responsibility.
agree 100%
If you have a minor living under your roof and is your legal responsibility and you know this about them...
had "used a gun against people before" and "has put the gun to others' heads in the past,"
... what would you do? Obviously you agree that the police should be called, as I do too, but would you leave it at that? Would you consider your duty done and do nothing else at all?
It is practically (in the lmost literal sense) impossible to have someone involuntarily committed. Florida’s Baker act is 72 hours max. I know many adoptive parents who have dealt with similar children and the state(s) treat them like criminals. Short of a felony (and often in that case), no matter what a minor threatens or does, no state or local agency will force anyone into a mandatory confinement.
Though everyone involved knows they are dangerous, nothing will happen until they commit a felony. Parents are often threatened and bullied by SJWs, courts and LEOs because they “can’t handle their child.”
I was told by a FL deputy that it was okay to physically assault a child if they were dangerous, but he would also be happy to arrest me if I did. I have seen therapists, counselors and other “social” workers refuse to honestly report numerous assaults and other crimes because they didn’t want to see a child “stigmatized.” I have seen children forced home from programs because they were too dangerous and scared other residents.
There is an Alphabet Soup of disorders and diagnoses, any one of which is a get-out-of-jail-free card. They just need medication or therapy and people who support them. These are the same people who advocate mutilating children because they are confused about their sex. These are the same folks who push boys to take psychotropic medications because they can’t sit quietly in a class kroon for 8 hours of indoctrination.
Parents cannot get respite or recourse from the states and most burn out. It’s easy to armchair quarterback and question motives, but unless you’ve lived it, you really have no idea. It’s an unending nightmare. I constantly counsel parents to press charges against minors because It’s the only way to maintain a record that won’t be dismissed. Therapy sessions aren’t admissible, and recollections aren’t reliable. Most of these parents become either prisoners or prison guards in their own home. They live in constant fear of both the children and the state.
Civil law is not based on legislative action; it is premised on the expert opinion of judges and social workers. The civil “justice” system is designed as an adversarial model. It’s predicated on parents being bad actors and children being victims. It totally breaks down when it’s the child who is the antagonist.
Not excusing what Nikalos Cruz did, but as a 19 yr old who just lost his mother, I can’t imagine the heartache he felt when only 2 people showed up for her funeral.
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