Posted on 02/22/2018 9:23:13 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Why not identify the teachers who are prior military/police, allow them to carry? Or identify those who want to learn and allow them to carry.
If I give my kids to a government institution for the day, they had better guarantee their security. We provide more security at various state and federal buildings than we do at schools. I don’t care how much it costs, schools need to become like the TSA, just like we’ve been doing at inner city schools for decades. Turn the soft target, gun free zone into a well secured hard one just like the Israeli’s. The school systems have the money, they’ve simply chosen to spend it on building massive bureaucracies filled with paper pushers. It’s time for the school administrations to become smaller and the schools to become safer.
The Parkland school had 7 uniformed guards - 2 were highly trained and fully armed govt police.
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A sheriff in Ohio offered a training class for teachers and administrators. He advertised 50 openings and got 250 applications almost immediately.
CCW-holders are the most law-abiding cross-section of the population you can find, more so than clergy or LEOs, and far less likely to shoot innocent bystanders than LEOs.
Just exactly what kind of “vetting” are you looking for?
The first obvious objection is that the teacher (or administrator or. adult employee) would be vulnerable to being sued for many consequences of having or using a handgun.
Another point is that many--perhaps most--of the teacher and other adult employees do not want to have the responsibility for being armed at all, certainly not as a condition of employment
The value-in-use of the teacher has thus jumped significantly, even if they all agreed to take on this added responsibility. In essence, the proposition of using unsworn ordinary citzens as the armed defender of the school propert and its contents is idiotic.
Why not provide incentive pay for those who carry?
I'd think that having the opportunity to save my own life would be sufficient reason to carry.
Arm the teachers,
Just make military experience the ONLY requirement to have ANY job in a school, then fire anyone without it, quickly hire some unemployed vets to take over, and tell those teachers destroying our country by brainwashing our kids with their liberal dogma that they only way they get back to their jobs is if they can make it through boot camp.
My talks with teachers surprised me. Most wanted to carry in school. I did not and will not ask them whether they do now carry without permission of the school board.
My suspicion is that there are quite a few who do carry in the classroom. In Texas.
Ok. Just tell me how much of my productivity will need to be confiscated so no American ever has to cry.
Call me when it’s over!
“We hire minimum wage bus drivers to drive them around. That seems to work fine”
On the great majority of days the most dangerous part is the bus ride. So minimum wage bus drivers with vetted creds and a CDL are entrusted to pick up and deliver school attendees 2x per day. Yet, if the tiniest infraction or incident occurs the lowly minimum waged bus driver is keel hauled and fired, sued, jailed or worse...
Some people will do just about anything for a minimum wage job.
Wrong.
The whole point of concealed carry is that nobody knows you’re carrying.
That means that, to the bad guys, every teacher is potentially armed.
Just the idea that any teacher could shoot you will be a big deterrent.
That’s why violent crime decreases when concealed carry is implemented in a state.
Does not negate the incentive. Not everyone sees this as an altruistic opportunity. Receiving qualifications to carry concealed bring with it costs that should be recouped, either by tax deduction or pay incentives. This would reduce the need for uniformed officers and provide added deterrent by getting rid of the target rich environment of a "Gun Free Zone".
Exactly.
Further, my local Utah school district has its own Cat 1 police force. There are two officers per high school and fairly large band of roamers between the junior and elementary schools. Add to that our permit laws which allow staff, teachers and visiting parents to carry concealed on campus. It’s a start.
Even with that in place, we’ve had (I believe) three arrests for social media threats this week.
My kid are grown and gone. But there were days when I would have traded them for half of that cost.
But, I would have been sad and paid to get them back. After a couple of weeks.
(I am kidding. I love my children. )
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