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To: Manly Warrior
If you want to know what takes to forfeit a “ liberty” then try boarding an aircraft and threatening to kill everyone onboard.

My suggestion of tightening the screws on punks who make death threats being permitted to exercise their “ rights” to buy an AR is a starting point.

The definition of “ hate speech” has gotten absurd. So I don't know what it will take to tighten up the definitions of “ terroristic threat’” vs smack talk. But when some punk who has access to my kids school makes a threat to shoot kids at the school, those kids deserve the same level of protection as a politician who gets death threats.

Here in DC they have armed guards at McDonald's. Have for years. Banks. Malls. City Hall. All armed guards. You don't hear much about schools in Israel being shot up- they profile and they protect with deadly force.

You think this punk would have picked this school if he knew he had to get past armed security? I don't

Better security. Proactive response to death threats. Removal of your “ gun rights” should be the least of your worries if you brag about shooting kids.

29 posted on 02/18/2018 12:33:04 PM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: silverleaf

No idea what the airline statement means- sorry.

The only parts of your comment I understand was the one about armed guard at venues of all types in DC etc and the lack of school type shootings in Israel; the part about Cruz knowing he was not going to face an armed guard or staff member at the school..

On those I completely agree. Up-arm every one, make the punks have to fight their way in.... Been saying that all along. Sad fact is, governments won’t agree, smile and so do for the most part. They think anyone other than a cop is a risk- but when you tell them CCW licensees in TX are 8.5 times more law abiding than cops, they look at you with dead eyes and drool running down their faces.

As I sit here at home after a day with my grand kids and daughter, armed and aware of what was going on around my home. Daughter gave me the secret pro-word upon arrival telling me she was armed too. That made three adults trained and armed watching two children...

At least the grand kids school has a security program wherein they have armed staff and faculty with concealed weapons, and a basic but working exterior and interior security system and routinely execute active shooter drills, Two armed uniformed school protection staff at each facility at all times, positive ID entry and metal detectors the only entrance, etc. Private church affiliated school that costs the equivalent of a Cadillac SUV monthly- but my daughter knows the trade off is worth it and drives a Ford sedan. I love Missouri.

Yeah, indeed, ones rights can only be lawfully deprived after a due process situation. Otherwise a complaint by a PITA neighbor or ex-spouse, grouchy teen can and would take indecent liberties with our rights. Been swatted- he is now in prison. I was glad I had the SD on speed dial and a working relationship with the Sherriff- otherwise it could have ended badly- for more than just me.

You may not like it at times, but all of our rights are guaranteed by the same process and protections. Otherwise none of us have rights if the government can simply “red flag” us based on some non-adjudicated situation. Too often the folks that have first hand information don’t want to “ruin” a kids life by being harsh... this was the situation in this case I believe. Like I said, liberty comes with responsibility. Defend yourself and yours. Send the kiddos off to the sheep pens if you want, I suggest there are options until the schools up-arm and prepare as you allude to. If it is too much a burden on lifestyle choices, then you’d better be more of a praying and hoping man than I- I sold my cloak and bought a sword long ago.

My wife and I began homeschooling our children in the early 90s, she gave up her RN job and I worked a second job even as a commissioned officer to make ends meet, we sacrificed luxuries for a long time while our children were raised and educated in a wholesome environment. They all are successful and productive men and women doing the same for theirs.

Regards


31 posted on 02/18/2018 5:45:25 PM PST by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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