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And to the root of the problem: Nearly twenty years ago, an adoption agency placed two infants in the aged-out (Cruz) home where the parents were apt to eventually be unable to cope or die before their baby adoptees reached adulthood. This agency should reconsider their policies.

Infants are not suitable for placement in a home where an adoptive parent is over age 50 or the combined parental age exceeds 100 years old. And Nikolas Cruz has a younger brother who is struggling on his own and has been moved to a 'facility.'

1 posted on 02/17/2018 6:49:19 AM PST by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Is the younger brother named “Dexter”?


2 posted on 02/17/2018 6:51:54 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Hardly falls in the same category
Do you think if his adoptive parents were 20 years younger he would have turned out differently?
Do you think 30-somethings are lining up to adopt siblings abandoned by alcoholics or drug abusers? .
Do you even realize how many grandparents are raising 2d families?
This kids revealed history and his odd facial and head shape suggests FAS/FAE, reactive attachment disorder and more
No matter what age the parents, there is precious little mental health support for children this damaged unless you are very rich ($150k residential treatment per year) or very poor ( gov foots the bill for residential placement)
There are thousands of juvenile sociopaths aka gang bangers- roaming around - many the products of teen mothers - who should be involuntarily committed to residential treatment in their childhood years


4 posted on 02/17/2018 7:01:43 AM PST by silverleaf (A man who kneels for the national anthem doesn't stand for much of anything)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

For starters this is general chat no t news

Crazy and angry man kills people......that is it nothing fancy just straight talk

The FBI nor the local PD responded to concerns about this person

Don’t over think things


5 posted on 02/17/2018 7:05:38 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

If the police had acted one of the 39 visits he might have had a record that would have prevented him from purchasing a firearm. Once again, the laws are in place. Just enforce them. No new laws necessary.


6 posted on 02/17/2018 7:08:43 AM PST by Terry Mross (Liver spots And blood thinners..)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The shooter. Next question.


7 posted on 02/17/2018 7:10:48 AM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
Responsible? Primarily the evil, deranged killer who(surprise!) doesn't want the death penalty! Neither did your victims, you POS! Secondarily responsible- the druggie parents who made kids,the system that has no facilities for mental cases, the school systems that insist on pretending the abnormal aren't and forcing teachers and kids to suffer with them,and parents who are PC'ed into tolerating schools not protecting their children from all of the above.

If there is a nutjob in your kids class,refuse to send them to school. If EVERYONE did that only the teachers and the problem kid would be there. Parents have more power than they have the courage to use.
8 posted on 02/17/2018 7:14:27 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (ISLAM is the problem. ISLAM is the enemy of civilization.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
1) The shooter

2) FBI (Federal Bureau of Ignoring death threats)

And raise the age for purchase of AR-15's to 21. YEAH I SAID IT.

9 posted on 02/17/2018 7:21:34 AM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The school board is Culpable for having the policy of “don’t tell police when you think you have a trouble maker student”. Even Colombo could figure this out and not even Mattlock could defend you.


14 posted on 02/17/2018 7:35:09 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Good post.


22 posted on 02/17/2018 8:11:11 AM PST by Lazamataz (Don't even think about it.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

And the Godless, leftist teachers union culture in government schools.


23 posted on 02/17/2018 8:15:08 AM PST by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Cruz.


25 posted on 02/17/2018 8:21:19 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

It appears the school did everything within their limited powers.
They restricted him (banned his backpack).
Eventually expelling him.
The doors have to be unlocked at dismissal time.

Many many people followed the “see something say something”

This is definitely someone who “should” have been on a list to flag a gunshop from selling to him (a history of death threats? But no criminal status as a felon?)

And of course - once again - the FBI was given more than enough warning.


26 posted on 02/17/2018 8:27:20 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

I haven’t really been following the story and so I don’t know all the details, and don’t really care to anymore, but was the school a “gun free zone”? If it was, then that’s your real “No. 1” blame. These atrocities will never stop until we put armed people in our schools to protect the innocent, regardless of who else “starts doing their job” outside of the scrool.


27 posted on 02/17/2018 8:28:52 AM PST by 3boysdad (The very elect.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Detective Colombo Knows and Perry Mason will Convict them.


29 posted on 02/17/2018 8:41:27 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Add whoever instituted the no guns on campus policy. We could have had a living hero who stopped the threat and saved lives, rather than a dead hero who took bullets shielding kids.


30 posted on 02/17/2018 9:12:42 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

The list is long and includes many. Maybe you, maybe me.


32 posted on 02/17/2018 9:16:43 AM PST by mulligan (The)
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