Posted on 02/14/2018 6:21:57 PM PST by Kaslin
This is the nature of gun politics now, folks. Every time there’s a mass shooting, the anti-gun Left simply cannot hold their tongues. We should mourn the victims, pray for the families, and wait for the authorities to conduct their investigation. That’s not allowed. After the horrific shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Florida, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) took to the Senate floor today to lecture his colleagues.
Sen. @ChrisMurphyCT on Parkland, Florida School Shooting: "This happens nowhere else other than the United States of America, this epidemic of mass slaughter, this scourge of school shooting after school shooting." pic.twitter.com/bgIrYzrDRl— CSPAN (@cspan) February 14, 2018
“This happens nowhere else other than the United States of America, this epidemic of mass slaughter, this scourge of school shooting after school shooting,” he said. Actually, shootings occur in other countries all the time, Senator. Have we forgotten about the Paris attacks in 2015? Second, mass shootings are rare. They still are, even FiveThirtyEight admitted this—and added that to view the gun violence issue solely through the prism of mass shootings is a good way to craft some pretty bad policy.
If we focus on mass shootings as a means of understanding how to reduce the number of people killed by guns in this country, we’re likely to implement laws that don’t do what we want them to do — and miss opportunities to make changes that really work.
Murphy also said that it happened as a consequence of congressional inaction. Okay—first, we don’t know anything about the shooter, Nikolas de Jesus Cruz, who shot and killed 17 people and wounded at least a dozen others. We don’t know the weapon or weapons he used. We don’t know his motivations. He was expelled. We simply don’t know. Second, the big push Democrats tried to do on gun control was preventing Americans who had not been convicted of a crime from buying guns. Yes, that’s the no fly no buy gun push. As attorney and Washington Examiner contributor Gabriel Malor noted, these are secret lists and there is zero due process of law. In fact, this idea was so bad that the LA Times editorial board agreed with the Second Amendment crowd for once in declaring that the people on the no fly list should be able to buy firearms:
One problem is that the people on the no-fly list (as well as the broader terror watch list from which it is drawn) have not been convicted of doing anything wrong. They are merely suspected of having terror connections. And the United States doesn't generally punish or penalize people unless and until they have been charged and convicted of a crime. In this case, the government would be infringing on a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution — and yes, like it or not, the right to buy a gun is a constitutional right according to the U.S. Supreme Court.
How certain is it that the people on the two lists are dangerous? Well, we don't really know, because the no-fly-list and the broader watch list are government secrets. People are not notified when they are put on, nor why, and they usually don't discover they have been branded suspected terrorists until they try to travel somewhere.
With regards to the terror watch list, which has around 1.1 million names, just 10,000 Americans are on that list. Everyone else is not a U.S. citizen, already barring him or her from purchasing firearms (yes, I know—criminals don’t follow laws with firearms).
That leaves us with about 10,000 American citizens (and some legal residents) who, under the proposed law, would be barred from exercising a constitutional right. That gives us pause,” wrote the editorial board.
No-fly list (~40k) is not the same thing as the terror watch list (~1M).
Dem gun ban bill uses a definition similar to terror watch list.— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) June 13, 2016
Democratic politicians who conflate the no-fly list with the terror watch list and the Dem gun ban proposal are misleading the public.— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) June 13, 2016
One thing the no-fly, the terror watch, and the Dem gun ban lists have in common: they are secret lists, you have no ability to challenge.— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) June 13, 2016
The no-fly list was found to unconstitutionally deprive of due process last year, but Admin said it would make changes. Still waiting.— Gabriel Malor (@gabrielmalor) June 13, 2016
Was Cruz a terrorist? We don’t know, so why even suggest that making this into a law would be something to further public safety. Most new gun initiatives from Democrats wouldn’t stop mass shootings or prevent gun violence. That’s evident with their failed so-called assault weapons ban.
So, all this did was politicize something without knowing all the facts—typical of Democrats. The anti-gun crowd is going to mobilize over this tragedy. They will push the same talking points and push for the same bills that won’t stop or reduce mass shootings. The cumulative effect argument is crap. One bad bill that doesn’t reduce mass shootings won’t be helped by a slate of them. What if Cruz bought these firearms legally? What if he had mental health issues? For the first, there’s nothing you can do. A person without a violent history, criminal convictions, or documented mental health issues will pass a background check, as they should. The second is an area where both sides can find common ground, but Democrats aren’t satisfied because they want so-called universal background checks to come with it.
It’ll end as it always does. The Left beats their chest; they get beat because the facts are not on their side, and a chance to do something, like improving detection for those with mental health issues, is squandered.
And a very good reminder about these incidents:
Just your all-too-frequent reminder that social media is poison during mass shootings.— Bob McGovern (@BobMcGovernJr) February 14, 2018
Becasue this is what a Democratic Tennessee U.S. Senate candidate said:
Good news! Thoughts and prayers stopped the shooting in Parkland, FL. https://t.co/HWVDDIpt5M— Shane Morris (@IamShaneMorris) February 14, 2018
What don’t the Dems politicize?
He cited all the typical lib talking points about being a Second Amendment guy, liked hunting, but didn't believe ARs were for hunting.
ask him if he supports the death penalty for that evil killer
You can make every school 100% secure and the carnage will just be moved to beyond the safe zone, no matter how far it is extended outward.
The one thing that would stop it is to have the demon hanged on prime time TV tomorrow night. He would be de-glamorized quickly, for all those contemplating similar renown.
2 words - Jeanne Assam
‘Nuff said.
That idiot Nelson ran to cameras and said their were deaths before the offical police announcement .
Just sick .
What a desperate idiot .
He is up for reelection this year .
Lord he is a nasty piece of work .
Hey look man! His seat is safe! Don’t worry about him. This is what they do. Get it?
Pull all the capitol police off their details. Make it as gun-free zone.
How did this guy beat UpChuckie?
Take a look at the Geller Report. The guy not only followed the Syrian Resistance, Latino Muslims, CAIR, Freedom for Gaza, Queer Palestinian Empowerment Network, Antifa, BLM and some Muslim for President Group. ...and these people are going to try to tell us he was right wing. Bet on it.
How many gun laws did this guy break and the liberals are screaming for more?
Why did that botox baboon beat Rubio, who was literally catatonic when he was on FNC *four* hours later?
If trees had been banned would Jesus have died of old age?
Just reported, the perp used 2 hand guns to do this dastardly deed. He is 19 therefore cannot legally own handguns. Start tracking the serial numbers. I am am expecting a big surprise where the handguns originated.
Isn’t it amazing how everyone seemed to be available. It’s almost like the media was in the school parking lot before the school shooting.
What a low life POS.
It’s an unsurprising bottom-feeder Democrat kind of quip. Mindless blather to win points with equally vapid constituents.
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