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Trump decries lack of ‘due process’ for men accused of sexual harassment, abuse
Washington Post ^ | 02/10/2016 | By Anne Gearan and Katie Zezima

Posted on 02/10/2018 7:04:23 PM PST by SeekAndFind

President Trump on Saturday appeared to side with men accused of domestic abuse or sexual misconduct, following a week of turmoil surrounding allegations of spousal abuse against two male aides that brought the national #MeToo movement inside the White House.

In a tweet, Trump questioned whether “due process” is being given to those accused of wrongdoing and expressed sympathy for their damaged careers and sullied reputations.

“Peoples lives are being shattered and destroyed by a mere allegation,” Trump tweeted Saturday morning. “Some are true and some are false. Some are old and some are new. There is no recovery for someone falsely accused — life and career are gone. Is there no such thing any longer as Due Process?”

The brief message, which made no mention of the accusers, marks the president’s most pointed response to the ongoing national reckoning with sexual harassment and abuse and put him seemingly at odds with a movement that in recent months has led to the downfall of several powerful men accused of abhorrent behavior.

Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), a leader in the effort to combat sexual harassment in Congress, said her stomach turned when she saw Trump’s tweet Saturday morning.

“The new mantra is ‘We believe the women,’ and he is frozen in ‘I believe the men,’ ” Speier said in an interview. “He’s beyond rehabilitation in my view.”

White House spokesmen did not respond to a request for comment about which cases Trump was referring to and whether he also thinks that the lives of accusers can be shattered and destroyed.

But Saturday’s tweet follows spousal abuse allegations against two Trump aides that roiled the White House over the past week. Both men left their posts despite denying the claims by ex-wives of physical and emotional abuse.

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“The new mantra is ‘We believe the women,’ and he is frozen in ‘I believe the men,’ ” Speier said in an interview. “He’s beyond rehabilitation in my view.”

We believe the women
I (Trump) believe the men

I BELEIVE IN INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

21 posted on 02/10/2018 7:58:08 PM PST by donna (Even white men are innocent until proven guilty.)
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WAPO desires to be judge, jury, and executioner.


22 posted on 02/10/2018 7:59:53 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with Trump here. Everyone ought to be presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Right now we have a situation similar to what happened about 20 years ago when so many people were being accused of child abuse in day care centers. It was like a chain reaction, and some people were imagining abuse when it had not occurred and others were chasing dollars from settlements.


23 posted on 02/10/2018 8:02:02 PM PST by Gumdrop
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To: SeekAndFind

I agree with Trump. The idiocy of condemning simply on accusation destroys our sacred “Innocent until PROVEN guilty.”
Turning the law on its head is the project of those who wish to destroy America. There are far too many MAN HATERS out there who are exercising their hate unlimited by any form of morality, let along justice.


24 posted on 02/10/2018 8:24:16 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cristina Garcia


25 posted on 02/10/2018 8:25:06 PM PST by SteveH
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To: Parley Baer

He was let go simply on an accusation!


26 posted on 02/10/2018 8:26:05 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: SeekAndFind

Old Rules: To be accused is to stand trial according to the rules of evidence and criminal and/or civil procedure.

New Rules: To be accused is to be condemned.

Old Rules: “She said-he said”.

New Rules: “She said-he’s shred”


27 posted on 02/10/2018 8:28:11 PM PST by lightman (ANTIFA is full of Bolshevik.)
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To: GnuThere

Has anybody checked their bank accounts?
...........................
Has anybody checked their voter registration?


28 posted on 02/10/2018 8:29:58 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: gubamyster

So 18th century.


29 posted on 02/10/2018 8:42:15 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is all in defense of the Queen, as well as retribution for her fall. More importantly, it plays into the progressive takeover of America. Interestingly, Mena must be the capital of the deep state........


30 posted on 02/10/2018 8:42:53 PM PST by Toespi
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To: SeekAndFind

So the mockingbirds don’t believe that the accused doesn’t have a right to face their accusors? And they think TRUMP is a dictator??? Talk about nazi-like. Just put the accused into a prison camp for being human beings!

Sexual abuse is a very touchy subject for me, but so are other forms of abuse. An accusation of sexual abuse is the equivalent of murder, so make damn sure the accusation is true.


31 posted on 02/10/2018 8:48:42 PM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: SeekAndFind

If the lives of the accusers are only shattered if it actually happened which is something determine in due process of law.

The lives of the accused is being distroyed regardless of wether or not it actually happened. Which is what it means to lack due process of law.

At best a false accusers might be hurt after due process of law determined they falsely accused if you can trust the media to ever report that fact. Which we all know will almost certainly never happen in almost all cases.


32 posted on 02/10/2018 9:03:46 PM PST by Monorprise
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To: SeekAndFind
Trump is right. Look at the psychotic original poster girl for #MeToo/#TimesUp, Rose McGowan. Harvey Weinstein is a scumbag, no doubt. But McGowan LIED about being raped. Her own manager at the time Jill Messnick told others that McGowan let Harvey go down on her in his hot tub and she regretted it, but admitted to her it was consensual. Messnick's name was dragged into it in 2017 by both sides as McGowan now claims she was raped. Well Messnick (who suffered from depression) last week KILLED HERSELF from the strain of being attacked by MeToo fanatics for not being supportive enough of McGowan -- who basically slandered her old friend. Truly despicable. Now MeToo has claimed its first dead victim. Will they FINALLY end this insane witchhunt? I doubt it.
33 posted on 02/10/2018 9:34:46 PM PST by montag813
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To: Basket_of_Deplorables

I believe Juanita - which doesn’t mean I believe all women...

Which isn’t the point. The concept of law is based on due process. If a woman in your company stood up and said ‘the boss is stealing’ there would have to be a process to deal with the accusation.. an arrest - courts, trials, lawyers...

We don’t just take a woman’s ‘word’ on crimes - - of any kind. In my example maybe the boss was stealing - maybe not... But he gets his day in court. The right to defend himself and to bring his facts to the table...


34 posted on 02/10/2018 9:47:11 PM PST by GOPJ (Were FISA Courts used to spy exclusively on Conservativ....e Americans during the Obama years?)
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To: SeekAndFind

People are so upset about men abusing women, and that is bad, but the priests often get away with it. There should be more outrage for the sake of all those little boys. They are more vulnarable and helpless.


35 posted on 02/10/2018 9:56:56 PM PST by buffyt (I am the way the truth the light, no one comes to the Father except by ME. Jesus said...)
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To: Hodar

...”All it takes is an allegation. Who needs proof? “We all know that women NEVER lie”. /s

Didn’t we see this show 20 years ago when prosecutors coached children to convict innocent Day Care workers? We were told then that “Children never lie”.

Sorry, no evidence, no crime.”...

Your post bears repeating. Our President is exactly right again. The legal process needs to determine what the truth is.


36 posted on 02/11/2018 2:57:09 AM PST by jazzlite
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...”People are so upset about men abusing women, and that is bad, but the priests often get away with it. There should be more outrage for the sake of all those little boys. They are more vulnarable and helpless.”...

YES! Some folks like myself believe that pedophilia in high places is the secret and covered up problem, which is masked by the “#me,too,” political movement.


37 posted on 02/11/2018 3:01:04 AM PST by jazzlite
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To: Hodar

“Sorry, no evidence, no crime”

Due diligence to corroborate evidence that the allegations are not false should be equally prioritized.


38 posted on 02/11/2018 4:37:34 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: SeekAndFind

He is absolutely right.


39 posted on 02/11/2018 4:48:07 AM PST by I want the USA back (Cynicism may just keep you from going insane in a world that has chosen its own demise.)
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To: TexasGurl24

AMEN

I hope Donald posts something nearly identical to this soon. Once all the rabid idiots are at peak hysteria and ready to be made fools...


40 posted on 02/11/2018 5:22:12 AM PST by varyouga
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