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L.A. County set to build its first new freeway in 25 years, despite many misgivings
L A Times ^ | Feb 10, 2018 | 3:00 AM | Louis Sahagun

Posted on 02/10/2018 6:41:05 PM PST by BenLurkin

The California Department of Transportation, in cooperation with a joint powers authority, will in June begin buying land to build a 63-mile high desert freeway connecting the Los Angeles County communities of Palmdale and Lancaster with the San Bernardino County communities of Victorville, Apple Valley and Adelanto.

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The county’s first new freeway in a quarter-century is something of a throwback, as regional planners have shifted their focus in recent years toward mass transit and infill development to combat snarled traffic and housing shortages. Yet it serves as a reminder that even as Los Angeles moves to encourage more density in its urban neighborhoods, development continues to push into the scrublands on the county’s fringes.

...Palmdale and Lancaster have seen their populations surge — even landing among the nation’s 10 fastest-growing cities in 2007, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. T

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The environmental impact report has already been approved, paving the way for right of way agents to begin acquiring land this spring with $274 million generated by Measure M, a sales tax increase approved by Los Angeles County voters in 2016 to build transportation projects over the next 40 years.

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State and county officials say they may decide to build in phases as funding becomes available. Proposals to make certain stretches of the freeway, or its entire length, a toll road are also under discussion, officials say.

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The route would run roughly parallel to State Route 18 and State Highway 138, also known as Pearblossom Highway. Congestion is a problem on Highway 138 thanks to big rigs, commuters and travelers to Las Vegas.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; freeway; losangelescounty; puccinisroad
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To: Pelham; Mike Darancette

So, where in the Golden State do you two reside?


61 posted on 02/11/2018 11:38:03 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

needed! How did they get Jerry brown’s DOT to cooperate

Let’s double deck I-5 through LA county or go underground with a tunnel.


62 posted on 02/11/2018 11:40:35 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Kozy

Of course we could use a high speed train. Ontario and Burbank to barstow then 1 line to Vegas. Gambling on the train to help pay for it.

I-15 a traffic jam. Or let the vegas hotels pay with an occupancy tax. That’s where everyone going.


63 posted on 02/11/2018 11:43:22 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Scrambler Bob

If cal would spend the gas tax on Hwys as the laws require we wouldn’t need toll roads.


64 posted on 02/11/2018 11:49:10 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Windflier

Pomona took a lot of blacks after the watts riot. Changed the nature of the city. The surrounding cities wouldn’t see to blacks. HUD or whatever it was at the time moved a lot of ,welfare and parolees to pomona.


65 posted on 02/11/2018 11:53:55 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

I own a 10 acre lot near Sheeps Creek Road which will probably have an on ramp. Anyone want desert living? Horses? lots in a my area zoned 10 acres.


66 posted on 02/11/2018 11:55:53 AM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: BenLurkin

north Orange County


67 posted on 02/11/2018 12:14:59 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: Pelham; BenLurkin

I also live in north Orange County.


68 posted on 02/11/2018 12:31:43 PM PST by Fiji Hill (u)
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To: Fiji Hill

NOC has changed a bit in recent years....


69 posted on 02/11/2018 12:37:59 PM PST by Pelham (California, a subsidiary of Mexico, Inc.)
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To: morphing libertarian

If cal would spend the gas tax on Hwys as the laws require we wouldn’t need toll roads.
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Yes, but then they could not extort/blackmail us with potholes to justify tax increases.

My town wanted a local tax, for road repair, you know.

They posted a sign, Vote for Measure X, right next to the biggest pothole farm on the main road.

That just reinforced my opposition, and illustrates their insincere scheme.

It did pass, after a couple of tries, and they did fix that particular problem area.

But they have left another pothole collection, which is eroding quickly, and are diverting road repair money to Quality of Life efforts.

Hmmmm. Fixing potholes would enhance Quality of Life (if they were honest).


71 posted on 02/11/2018 12:39:03 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

state law requires they spend the gas tax on roads and they don’t No one in power ever goes to jail.


72 posted on 02/11/2018 12:40:42 PM PST by morphing libertarian (Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Fiji Hill

On the way to Reno, the my least favorite stretch of Rte. 395 is through the Adelanto area.
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Lots of folks have died on 395. Impatient. Drunk. Tired. Got to get home from Mammoth.

I drive it in high alert mode. Been forced to hit the ditch to allow cars to pass, two-wide in one lane.


73 posted on 02/11/2018 12:44:44 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: BenLurkin

The highway will encourage, boost, the already active residential building boom out there, and the water for all the additional people there is coming from where?


74 posted on 02/11/2018 12:52:15 PM PST by Wuli
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To: Windflier

That is so sad to hear what your parents went through.


75 posted on 02/11/2018 1:22:23 PM PST by Moonmad27
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To: Wuli

Good question.


76 posted on 02/11/2018 1:40:18 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Barstow.


77 posted on 02/11/2018 3:03:31 PM PST by Mike Darancette (Congressional Bi-partisanship: Agreeing to the make up of the Trump firing squad.)
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