Posted on 02/09/2018 7:50:40 AM PST by Red Badger
SAN JOSE (KPIX 5) – The number of people packing up and moving out of the Bay Area just hit its highest level in more than a decade.
Carole Dabak spent 40 years living in San Jose and now she’s part of the mass exodus that is showing no signs of slowing down.
The retired engineer’s packing up and calling it quits about to move to the state of Tennessee.
“I loved it here when I first got here. I really loved it here. But it’s just not the same,” Dabak said.
Of course people come and go from the Bay Area all the time, but for the first time in a long time, more people are leaving the Bay Area than are coming in. And the number one place in the country for out-migration is now, right here.
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Russell Hancock with Joint Venture Silicon Valley said, “Silicon Valley has been this place that is growing. And it was mostly due to people relocating here and relocating from other parts of the world. That’s changing.”
Joint Venture Silicon Valley’s own study of the out-migration says workers are moving to Sacramento, Austin, and Portland due to a number of factors. But topping the list is the high cost of housing.
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“You can’t even contemplate getting into the housing market here,” Hancock said. “And I don’t mean just service workers, but highly skilled professionals. The tech elite are having a hard time affording reasonable housing in Silicon Valley. That makes it difficult for employers to recruit.”
Operators of a San Jose U-Haul business say one of their biggest problems is getting its rental moving vans back because so many are on a one-way ticket out of town.
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Dabak cites crowding, crime and politics as the reasons for her own exodus.
“We don’t like it here anymore. You know, we don’t like this sanctuary state status and just the politics,” she said.
She plans to sell her home for about $1 million, buy a much larger place near Nashville for less than half that and retire closer to family and friends.
Port Costa used to be one of the busiest wheat ports on the West Coast of the US. They dredged the delta which sort of put an end to that.
Now it is a quiet little enclave with two very good restaurants and outstanding bars, and a little hotel with tons of character.
It’s a place where mostly gay people go to live and hide from the world, and you can’t assume anything by the fact they are gay. Ideologically, they mostly don’t have an ideology, except to say they want to be left alone.
I have a lot of respect for that. You have to buy and bring all your food in - they don’t even have a market.
It’s an end-of-the-world spot. A drink at the Warehouse while the world blows itself up.
The Mossy Toad at the golf course at Newcastle east of Seattle is another such place. In both places, you can have a cigar while you watch the world burn.
I think the original story is French, but there a couple of OTR versions, with this Vincent Price one being my favorite.
I don’t think many know how bad SF has become. I’m from the Detroit area and I was SHOCKED at downtown SF. Welcome to liberal land.
Welcome Miss Marmelstein! We need reinforcements.
Look y’all you have two errors in all these lamentations:
1). Everyone moving out is taking lib ideas with them.
No they aren’t. The lady in the article herself bemoans the Sanctuary State garbage. I know 18 people personally who moved to TX from CA. 7 were minors; 5 very conservative; 2 squishy and 1 Green Party.
2. If libs move out of anywhere they make it less lib, right? It’s not like they stay in both places.
If people
Move out of CA in droves we’ll have a lower census and that is good for America.
>>Gonna escalate quickly.
You got that right...look no further than CT to see what happens when the wealthy start figuring out they can move someplace else and save a ton of money on state taxes.
Trump got 9 percent of the vote in San Francisco! I believe he’d have been up to 12 or more were our vote not so depressed here, we are so outnumbered.
>>In spite of it all San Francisco is beautiful.
Its true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so you are not wrong, but for the life of me I can’t see the attraction.
Been there several times on business, and all I see is filth everywhere I look - filthy streets, filthy people. Maybe I am just going to the wrong parts.
Yep. They never connect their voting patterns and the policies/programs they support with WHY CA is now a sewer. So, they will move, they will bring their voting patterns with them, and, eventually, TX and TN are going to suffer.
Well, Seattle is also a "sanctuary city"; and, is reaping the same reward. There are stories circulating about the amount of urine and feces on the increase in Seattle streets.
A very pretty city, with great views of mountains and water; but, progressive policies and total liberal/progressives running the place for some years (decades, really) now, have ruined the place.
front wheel drive ?
Ah. So, you're the last one over the bridge, eh?
Well, #2 is certainly right. But libs who move from the two coasts are going to turn our red states blue if we let them - I think I’m on pretty solid ground with that.
Thank you for the welcome! I actually loved my time in beautiful California. I had family there for many years but they’ve moved back to NYC.
Yep!......................
If you let them...I guess that is the key statement. I see this sentiment quite a bit, and have seen it on FR for a few years-and I find it a bit disconcerting. Are red states so politically fragile, uncohesive, or unaggressive (politically speaking) that libs coming from other states going to topple them?
Are conservatives in those red politically inferior or so unpolished or unconnected in some way so that when some aggressive liberal moves to the state and runs for office they can beat out conservative candidates easily?
I don't understand the dynamic. I would think that in the red states that are well established, they have been able to overcome native liberal candidates (all states have them, even Texas and Georgia) but if someone comes in from out of state, they can win election?
Or are voting blocks in red states so close politically speaking that a few thousand here or there are enough to swing the pendulum? I have heard it said that at a national level, a few hundred thousand votes correctly applied could swing the election...is that the case in red states?
They want it both ways..."Don't mess with Texas" for example. And yet half of what ya hear down there is, "CA is turning us blue, we're doomed...help us"....lol
You ask great questions and people smarter than me can probably answer them. One thing about libs: they play a long game. They can wait 30-50 years to take over a state, a university, a town, etc. They don’t mind waiting. I think we conservatives don’t play that way. We bowed out of the culture (films, theater, tv, art) when the going got tough for us. We certainly allowed the libs to take over a lot of the churches and the communists to take over my own church (Catholic)! Why did we? As someone else said here, maybe we don’t love freedom as much as we think we do?
I love the concept of Texas and the “Don’t Mess with Texas” mindset. But I know they had (and have) their own home grown liberals with the likes of Ann Richards in the past, and probably the entire city of Austin notwithstanding, but the conservative nature of the state always seemed to survive.
I understand their particular problem with the Mexican border which does indeed pose a major danger to them if illegals are allowed to vote.
I am just puzzled as to why liberalism isn’t seen primarily as a national problem as opposed to a state problem (in our current environment with weaker state’s rights) and if the population in a state shifts in the liberal direction, the answer is to somehow demonize the people from some other state and blame them for the downfall instead of fighting for what is right for your state.
I view Leftism as a cancer, and our country is the host. Putting a tourniquet on an arm to keep it away is not going to keep the cancer out of the arm.
You just lose the patient and the arm goes with it.
That was kind of in the back of my mind as well...is it really true that Leftists have an advantage because we as conservatives play the role of the man with his fingers plugging holes in a dike and his friends always on the watch for new leaks, while the liberals play the role of...water.
They don’t have to be on watch 24 x 7, they just have to...be. They don’t have to man the ramparts all the time, watching and fighting.
They just have to exist, and wait.
Eventually there will be a weakening, and they flood through it.
Or, do they have an advantage over us in that respect because conservatives, almost by definition alone, are individualists, not inclined to act in large groups, while leftists, by definition, are collectivists, and exist to act in groups. Because of that, leftists are more than willing to work with people whose views and beliefs they find odious or objectionable, and ally with them to achieve their goals. (Then they kill or enslave all those impure people who helped them achieve victory...it is just their way.)
Personally, I feel that in the end, a group of individuals can withstand the collective. But it feels like it is harder to withstand the collective than it is for them to achieve victory over individuals. But they are so damned stupid and arrogant they screw it up all the time, which is good for us...
As long as we can oppose them and keep our necks out of their yoke. Or their guillotine.
You had the Clintons, then Bush for 8 years and then Obama for 8 years right? For those not paying attention, that clearly makes it a national problem.
I think about that very concept quite often, and hope that isn't the case.
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