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FBI says no evidence of attack on dead Border Patrol agent
Fox News ^ | February 8, 2018 | Ray Bogan

Posted on 02/08/2018 10:26:32 AM PST by ilovesarah2012

The mysterious death last year of a U.S. Border Patrol agent – which has turned into a political football reaching the White House – did not appear to result from an attack or fight, the FBI announced Wednesday. Agent Rogelio Martinez died in November 2017 outside Van Horn, Texas, about 110 miles southeast of El Paso. According to an autopsy report from the El Paso County Office of the Medical Examiner, the cause of Martinez’s death is blunt force injuries of the head, but the manner of death is still undetermined.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; bluntforce; borderagent; borderagentmurder; borderpatrol; fbi; martinez; rogeliomartinez; texas; undetermined; vanhorn
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To: ilovesarah2012

Geez, how long does it take for the feds to get their story straight?


41 posted on 02/08/2018 11:43:38 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: bgill

“Geez, how long does it take for the feds to get their story straight?”

+1


42 posted on 02/08/2018 11:55:57 AM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Se no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.


43 posted on 02/08/2018 12:10:08 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Se no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil.


44 posted on 02/08/2018 12:10:09 PM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: trebb
it appears there was a substantial car accident and the injuries may have been a result...

What car accident? Do you have a link for that?

45 posted on 02/08/2018 12:27:33 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Harpotoo

A stray meteorite?


46 posted on 02/08/2018 12:30:36 PM PST by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Avalon Memories

Exactly, why should anyone believe a word the FBI says at this point. They have joined the ranks of the IRS, VA, BATF as government organizations go. If the FBI says something automatically question the truthfulness of the statement. Sadly, they lie and it would appear, a lot!


47 posted on 02/08/2018 12:38:11 PM PST by sarge83
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To: Tijeras_Slim
My guess is that he fell in an arroyo. It can be dark like nobody’s business out in the desert.

Could be, the area was steep and rocky. Unfortunately the other agent who survived has no memory of what happened.

48 posted on 02/08/2018 12:41:41 PM PST by usurper ( version)
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To: rfp1234

And then Ryan’s and then Trump’s if he signs it! Let’s stay up to midnight and see what happens. Either way life goes on.


49 posted on 02/08/2018 1:12:09 PM PST by Harpotoo
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To: Telepathic Intruder

It could be, but not necessarily. If you tripped and conked your head on a rock, that would also be a “blunt force injury”.


50 posted on 02/08/2018 1:49:08 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Possibly. But the story says the other guy with him also sustained injuries and “can’t remember” what happened, i.e. suffering amnesia. Sounds like evidence of an attack.


51 posted on 02/08/2018 1:52:51 PM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: ilovesarah2012
me thinks they were up to no good and things went south
52 posted on 02/08/2018 3:51:56 PM PST by Chode (You have all of the resources you are going to have. Abandon your illusions and plan accordingly.)
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To: Chode

That’s what I’m wondering. This story stinks.


53 posted on 02/08/2018 6:38:35 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012

The FBI is a joke at this point. Did the Texas Rangers investigate? If so, they will solve it and bring the culprit to justice.


54 posted on 02/08/2018 8:14:41 PM PST by SailormanCGA72
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To: Tammy8
I interpreted the

“I think we ran into a culvert,” Agent Stephen Garland told a Border Patrol dispatcher the night before Martinez died. Garland was disoriented and unsure of his location but knew he and Martinez were badly hurt and needed help.

as them driving into a culvert and getting banged up - I may very well be wrong though.

55 posted on 02/09/2018 2:36:36 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks ilovesarah2012. Doncha just love the smell of BS in the morning?
According to an autopsy report from the El Paso County Office of the Medical Examiner, the cause of Martinez’s death is blunt force injuries of the head...

56 posted on 02/09/2018 7:05:20 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: trebb

I have not seen any mention of vehicle damage, or vehicle accident investigation in any of the reports. Not sure what that may refer to unless he meant they ran into the culvert on foot- but no indication why they would have been running. Agent Garland did have head injuries, and at this point has no memory of what happened so he may have been confused as to what happened to them then. The article said he was disoriented when talking to the dispatcher.

The agents were in separate vehicles so not sure a vehicle accident would explain what happened, and surely any damage to either vehicle would have been noticed in the investigation.

I was curious if you had seen mention of an accident because I hadn’t seen anything.

This whole incident seems to have far more questions than answers.


57 posted on 02/09/2018 7:24:12 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: Tammy8
This whole incident seems to have far more questions than answers.

That's for darn sure

58 posted on 02/09/2018 9:03:41 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: Boogieman

Remember both agents had head injuries, the one that died had multiple serious injuries- people at the scene said it looked like he had been beat to death. The surviving agent had serious head injury and back injuries. So a fall, even from the highway at the top of the culvert (estimated 8 feet) would not result in those kinds of injuries. Not too likely they would both trip and fall or just fall. Many of the articles only mention the agent that died but there were 2 involved.

Border Patrol from agents in the field to supervisors seem convinced they were attacked from behind by smugglers. Many BP agents have been physically attacked over the years so it is absolutely possible, to me even the most likely answer. I think politics right now has the FBI and others looking for another explanation. I could be wrong, have been wrong before.


59 posted on 02/09/2018 9:18:02 AM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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