Posted on 02/07/2018 4:29:09 PM PST by Eleutheria5
Russia reacted seriously to yesterday's Knesset bill to recognize the Ukrainian genocide in the 1930's advanced by Druze MK Akram Hasson (Kulanu) and marking the Holodomor ("to kill by starvation"), the mass famine in Ukraine between 1932-3 in which millions were killed. The Russian Embassy reacted by saying the bill "sadly distorts history".
Meanwhile, the Russians are applying additional pressure on the media. Yesterday, Russian Deputy Ambassador to Israel Leonid Frolov spoke with Galei Tzahal's Michael Hauser Tov. Frolov was asked whether this law intensifies sensitivities while security coordination between Jerusalem and Moscow regarding Iran and Syria is at its peak.
Frolov said: "This is not a good time to discuss such a proposal. This is a very important time for all the world and now, when Mr. Trump declared Jerusalem as the capital, Israel needs the support not only of the United States; Israel needs the support of many other countries, who think in a different way."
The Ukrainian wholesale murder in the 1930s perpetrated by Stalin is an upsetting issue for the Russians. According to Hasson's proposal, the State of Israel will officially recognize the Ukrainian genocide, and even hold a memorial day and ceremony on the subject.
Russia claims it was natural disaster that caused the terrible hunger, and not, as they say in Ukraine, a deliberate action of the Soviet Union against them.
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Maybe a torch lit parade through Kiev to show their affection and gratitude ?
As is the New York Times.
Well I guess the “we didn’t mean it” defense is progress of a sort. The Russians used to say they didn’t do it, the Soviets did it.
“Maybe a torch lit parade through Kiev to show their affection and gratitude ?”
Nothing involving fire, please.
Hmm, well that’d leave out Turkey and the Armenian massacre.
The ugly truth is, that a lot of central and Eastern European citizens “helped out” the Nazis during the war, apparently not realizing that they were very clearly next on Hitler’s list.
Just as bad, many central and Eastern European countries persecuted, pushed out,(and sometimes killed off) their German-speaking minorities after the war, even those who had fought WITH them. This went on for nearly the rest of the 1940’s.
But again, that’s Europe, and fortunately, my relatives left all of that baggage before the Russian Revolution.
“Well I guess the we didnt mean it defense is progress of a sort. The Russians used to say they didnt do it, the Soviets did it.”
After WWII, the Germans said that the Nazis did it. After the fall of the USSR, the Russians say that the Soviets did it. Seems to be a pattern here...
At least in the case of the Germans there was a different set of ruling elites in charge after the war. The people governing Russia today are the same people who were in charge of the Soviet Union.
thank you
And just because both sides were taught to punish their enemies. Same lessons, different sides.
True, but how can you calculate the pressure those people were under. One may be able to make accusations against individuals, living or dead, but to say the present day democratically elected sovereign government of a country that was at the time rent asunder by German AND Soviet invasions is a bridge too far and must be the result of an underlying agenda.
“I really dont know why Russia today should feel defensive about what Stalin and the Soviet Union did in the 1930s. It happened. It was bad. Just admit it and try not to do it again. How hard is that?”
The problem is that in both countries those in power, cannot allow the evil done by their predecessors to be acknowledged, since a lot of their support views the acts as good (Communist, or Muslim Caliphate).
Why is isreal pushing for this bill so hard? Seems stupid to alienate Russia given what’s going on in the middle east.
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Not sure Israel needs a bill oversomething predating their modern existence as a state, but if they want to, that's fine. It is a fact.
“” “” Someone needs to tell Putin that Russia is incapable of intimidating Israel.”” “”
Israel is pretty much capable to put down an idiot who introduced the bill on its own.
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