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HNA Real Estate Group Misses Payment
Nasdaq ^ | 2/7/2018 | Reuters

Posted on 02/07/2018 8:28:27 AM PST by RinaseaofDs

BEIJING/SHANGHAI, Feb 7 (Reuters) - An HNA Group company has failed to make an early payment it had agreed to on a 1.7 billion yuan ($271.9 million) trust product that falls due next week, two sources with direct knowledge of the situation said, the latest indication of financial stress at the highly leveraged conglomerate.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008; default
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HNA Group is one of China's biggest companies. They hold 5M shares of Deutsche Bank.

Today they're real estate arm missed a $270M payment. They are in technical default.

The questions: 1. Who's insuring that debt? 2. The total debt is $15B, can that company make CITIC whole (CITIC is holding the debt)?

DB shares are down bigly today.

Given the market shenanigans of this still young week, I thought this news really hadn't made the rounds of yet.

Look out for falling knives people.

1 posted on 02/07/2018 8:28:27 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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This thread sucks without pics of Chinese ghost cities.


2 posted on 02/07/2018 8:29:28 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Do not go gentle into that good night. Dylan Thomas)
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All 28. Not counting the ones they built in Africa. Yes, Africa.


3 posted on 02/07/2018 8:31:03 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs

Bookmark great catch. Anyone know anything about Apache Corp?


4 posted on 02/07/2018 8:33:33 AM PST by Cats Pajamas (#releasethememo)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Angola:


5 posted on 02/07/2018 8:35:10 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Cats Pajamas

An entire asset class ceased to exist on Monday. This happens last night.

Feels like crumbling at the edges. Normally a 666 point drop would have 1/3 of the VIX knock on than it did this week.

The Chinese seem convinced there is going to be a war. I’m sure there is zero connection between their biggest company going into bankruptcy and their need to put 1 billion out of work Chinese people to some gainful task.


6 posted on 02/07/2018 8:41:29 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Bookmark holy crap


7 posted on 02/07/2018 8:45:38 AM PST by Cats Pajamas (#releasethememo)
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On a DB related note, from a few days ago...

Deutsche Bank Posts Losses of €497 Million for 2017

Third consecutive year of losses...

8 posted on 02/07/2018 8:49:14 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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It just occurred to me, these ghost cities look like the perfect place to stuff a whole bunch of unruly citizens.

Opening up the land for the animals to be free and wild, with the people easily controlled.

They don't need pesky things like money, fuel, cars Etc, just gov transportation to the farms & factories.

9 posted on 02/07/2018 8:49:47 AM PST by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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Really wondering if the EU had its mitts in the dirty dossier...


10 posted on 02/07/2018 8:50:03 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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Credit Suisse made about 230M Euros last year. On Monday they lost about 500M Euros overnight.

The Obama Admin wanted to fine DB $14B Euros. He had to be smoking crack in the White Hut.


11 posted on 02/07/2018 10:54:43 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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I don’t think Barry was serious about that fine. I think it was a lotta smoke and mirrors.


12 posted on 02/07/2018 11:03:44 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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I think DB settled for $5B. DB shares got hammered, and the German government had to get involved.

He was incredibly serious. He hit BP for $20B without batting an eyelash over the thing in the Gulf of Mexico. BP just bent over and took it with a handful of sand tossed in.


13 posted on 02/07/2018 11:27:35 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Was that the benchmark rigging thing? If so, that fine ended up being about $70 mil. Was the Russian money laundering fine ever actually assessed?


14 posted on 02/07/2018 11:31:33 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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No, it was the fine from the 2008 mishagas. The MBS fraud stuff.

Hard to keep all the fraud and fines straight, isn’t it?


15 posted on 02/07/2018 11:53:18 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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Especially with DB. Meanwhile....

HNA Is Victim of Conspiracy Against China: Co-Chairman

16 posted on 02/08/2018 4:16:28 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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And check this out, from last summer...

Who really owns this big stake in Virgin?

17 posted on 02/08/2018 4:33:25 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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Interesting stuff here from a couple of days ago....

Amid Debt Crisis, HNA Faces Questions About Ownership/

18 posted on 02/08/2018 4:37:40 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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HNA Group CEO to Skip Gathering of Leaders at Davos
19 posted on 02/08/2018 4:41:11 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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Uber receives nearly $2 billion investment from Chinese firms
20 posted on 02/08/2018 4:45:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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