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The Federal Reserve May Secretly Want to Sink the Record-Breaking Stock Market
TheStreet ^ | Sep 19, 2017 | Scott Gamm

Posted on 02/05/2018 7:33:21 PM PST by familyop

A big Federal Reserve meeting is coming up. Here is one thing that could happen if the Fed gets too aggressive.

Despite its independence, the Federal Reserve may quietly want a bear market that takes down a president that loves tweeting about the stock market.

Peter Schiff, CEO of Euro Pacific Capital, told TheStreet the "[Janet] Yellen put" in the markets could expire under President Trump. "I don't know if the Fed has much love for Trump," he said, adding that the Fed had the markets' back during the Obama Administration.

"Maybe the Fed would be happy to see a bear market that could be blamed on Trump." Schiff thinks the markets could easily correct 20%.

One black swan event Schiff sees is the notion of investors abandoning the euphoria over Trump's presidency, which helped fuel the stock market rally this year.

"We've had a huge move up since the election of Trump even though prior to the election the expectation was if Trump won it [would be a disaster for markets]," he said.

When asked if the two straight quarters of double-digit earnings growth has sparked the rally in stocks this year, as opposed to solely Trump, Schiff pointed to earnings headwinds in the retail sector.

The Federal Reserve is scheduled to meet later this week.

Watch the full interview with Peter Schiff:


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: economy; federalreserve; janetyellen; markets; obamaholdovers; obamunists; peterschiff; stockmarketplunge; stocks; thefed; trump
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To: familyop

A financial coup against President Trump? And why now?


41 posted on 02/05/2018 10:26:40 PM PST by Reno89519 (Americans Are Dreamers, Too! No to Amnesty, Yes to Catch-and-Deport, and Yes to E-Verify.)
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To: Reno89519

Maybe they want to coordinate a crashing market with the repeat government shutdown when the continuing resolution expires again?


42 posted on 02/05/2018 10:32:17 PM PST by Styria
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To: Reno89519

Why now? Maybe because the real investigation is exposing their crimes, and the midterm election campaigns will be starting before long.

They need majorities in Congress to do much damage, even though that would initiate another fight that they cannot win (Republicans finally fighting for survival without compromises to Democrat politicians and their most influential constituents).

Here’s the real Fox News channel at YouTube. Have a look at the last few videos, if you haven’t already seen it all.

https://www.youtube.com/user/FoxNewsChannel/videos

There’s no move they can make to put us in check except for a move against the economy or at least the propaganda front against it. They need voters more than ever to back up their threats against our Executive and Legislative branches. If they don’t get enough votes in the congressional elections this year, their chance to continue to completely control our nomination process, election process, Executive branch and Legislative branch will evaporate.


43 posted on 02/05/2018 11:44:23 PM PST by familyop (President Trump said that we're all important, so let's do something!)
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To: familyop
For the why, this is closer to the truth:

Click here.

The key phrase is, "...the Fed had the market's back during the Obama administration.

44 posted on 02/06/2018 1:33:32 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: nopardons

Yellen, who is part of Obama’s cabal has interest in calming the markets? Do you not think this is a coordinated attack by billionaire liberals?

In the real world of PDJT TDS, things like this happen. Foolish to think otherwise. Those things you list are academics...they happen and are thought to be causes, but only AFTER AFTER AFTER the triggers were pulled by the cabal. Yes, they have that much power and influence to affect supply and demand laws. Yellen, really???

Trump did not deal with the Fed well...should have his own guy in there.


45 posted on 02/06/2018 2:33:13 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Do not go gentle into that good night. Dylan Thomas)
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To: familyop

It’s not the FED. Thing bigger, who controls the FED?

The NWO.
Who controls the NWO
Ware part of the NWO?
The SWAMP


46 posted on 02/06/2018 3:06:51 AM PST by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: butlerweave

Lost 666 on Fridayb message from Deep State “Satan is in control”


47 posted on 02/06/2018 3:08:00 AM PST by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: familyop

It is a bet against volatility. It is short near term VIX
futures. It must buy them to cover as they go up, forcing them up further. That’s what happened late yesterday.


48 posted on 02/06/2018 3:08:19 AM PST by bankwalker (Immigration without assimilation is an invasion.)
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To: familyop

Irrational exuberance


49 posted on 02/06/2018 3:39:20 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: familyop
In the spirit of know your enemy...

The Creature from Jekyll Island: A Second Look at the Federal Reserve

50 posted on 02/06/2018 3:47:54 AM PST by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: butlerweave
Yellen is out Stock Market goes BOOM , what was she doing

What do you think she was doing?

51 posted on 02/06/2018 3:50:14 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: familyop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDixoT8GhMo


52 posted on 02/06/2018 3:50:32 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: butlerweave
The first thing the new should do is audit audit audit

When you say "audit" what exactly do you mean?

53 posted on 02/06/2018 3:52:07 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: plain talk

Nobody is even mentioning that the Fed pumped #10 Trillion into the market over 0bama’s 8 years and kept rates at zero to prevent the economy from doing a face plant. Now that the economy is improving just on the HOPE of Trump they have quit pumping that $85 Billion a month into it. Now to suggest the obvious, the Fed is gong to have to begin the arduous process of pulling that $10 Trillion in inflationary dollars back in. Problem is the people who benefitted by the Fed’s pumping program won’t be the same people who will suffer as it is reeled back in. IOW, we are witnessing the largest theft in human history.


54 posted on 02/06/2018 3:53:46 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Democrat_media
Then Trump gets elected and the Fed has raised around 5 times already.

Three times.

Tell me the Fed doesn’t have a political agenda to crash the stock market, real estate market and the economy and Trump with them.

I would point out that over the course of those three interest rate increases the Dow is up about 30%. The last increase in December was followed by about an additional 6% to 8% increase. How exactly did the Fed "crash the stock market, real estate market and the economy?"

55 posted on 02/06/2018 3:55:42 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Palio di Siena
Irrational exuberance

Really? The MSM is all bears and Cassandras. I hope they cause a 2007 style selloff. I made bucku bucks as a result of that one.

You have to be very precise to play shorts, and I don't have that expertise, but I do know bargains when the present themselves, and you don't have to be a genius. Just buy 'em and forget 'em for a few years.

The Lazy Man's portfolio is a proven winner over time.

56 posted on 02/06/2018 3:57:23 AM PST by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: ncalburt
Trumps new Fed Reserve pick needs to come out on Tuesday and dismiss Janet Y bitter parting comments and calm nerves.

Yellen merely pointed out that price/earnings ratios were at or near historic highs. What is Powell supposed to do? Lie and say she was wrong? Yellen didn't say anything that wasn't already known by the investing community.

57 posted on 02/06/2018 3:57:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Almondjoy
The fed is unloading bonds left and right at the same time raising interest rates.

The Fed has been selling their holdings for a couple of years now.

58 posted on 02/06/2018 3:58:50 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: CivilWarBrewing
Much more to it than that - the build up has all been on spec that trump would get the tax cuts done. With the tax cuts, the environment will become more fluid as business grow/return/crop up and it was an opportune time for a long overdue correction.

Give it time and then get ready for an all-around improvement in all aspects of the economy..

59 posted on 02/06/2018 4:19:51 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives...;-})
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To: butlerweave

> Yellen is out Stock Market goes BOOM , what was she doing

Yellen is just following her orders from the Deep State, i.e., let slip that since the stock market is rising faster than the Deep State wants, she’ll have to raise the interest rate. This causes the sell-off that the Deep State wants, so they can show how bad the Trump Economy is.

Yellen needs to go. We don’t want a Deep State operative running the Fed.


60 posted on 02/06/2018 4:57:24 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code amd only practiced by warriors.)
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