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Uber and Lyft want you banned from using your own self-driving car in urban areas
The Mercury News (San Jose, CA) ^ | February 3, 2018 | Ethan baron

Posted on 02/04/2018 9:36:53 AM PST by jiggyboy

The rabble can’t be trusted with self-driving cars, and only companies operating fleets of them should be able to use them in dense urban areas.

So say Uber and Lyft, as signatories to a new list of transportation goals developed by a group of international non-governmental organizations and titled “Shared Mobility Principles for Livable Cities.”

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; automotive; lyft; skynet; tempe; transportation; uber
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There's not much more at the link, but SJ Mercury must be a short excerpt. Even so, we can see that one of the most repellent terms and ideas that exists, "a group of international non-governmental organiations", is leading this effort.

Regulatory Capture in two steps:

Uber 2009: Government control and restrictions on the taxi business is so 19th-century! Let Uber drivers operate without government oversight!

Uber 2018: Government control and restrictions on future technology is Job One! Let no driver who does not fly the Uber flag live drive without government permission!

Now we know why they seem to be not panicked about short-term cash burn and long-term balance-sheet red ink: the current business is just in place for them to convert to a self-driving fleet that is one of the pampered pets of the NWO.

If this is their position on self-driving cars in cities &c, what about me in my little 2010 rice-burner? Will people watch with laughter and glee the night-vision video from 20,000 feet of me being droned as I approach the toll booth?

1 posted on 02/04/2018 9:36:53 AM PST by jiggyboy
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Sorry for future generations.
But i hope i do not live long enough to have to be apart of self driving cars.


2 posted on 02/04/2018 9:40:17 AM PST by Leep (The dims better watch it..Trump is CRAZY!!)
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Wont be surpised if this becomes law in the not so distant future. Despite Trump, this nation is stilk on a fast track to full grown Socialism.


3 posted on 02/04/2018 9:41:58 AM PST by Angels27
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To: jiggyboy

Hey! What a great place for a Rush tune!

Red Barchetta - based on the short story “A Nice Morning Drive”

“The song’s lyrics tell a story set in a future in which many classes of vehicles have been prohibited by “the Motor Law”. The narrator’s uncle has kept one of these now-illegal vehicles (the titular red Barchetta sports car) in pristine condition for some “fifty-odd years” and keeps it hidden at his secret country home (previously a farm before the enactment of the aforementioned Motor Law). Every Sunday, the narrator sneaks out to this location and goes for a drive in the countryside. During one such drive, he encounters a “gleaming alloy air car” that begins to chase him along the roads. A second such vehicle soon joins the pursuit, which continues until the narrator drives across a one-lane bridge that is too narrow for the air cars. The song ends with the narrator returning safely to his uncle’s farm”.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjjNvjURS-s


4 posted on 02/04/2018 9:44:33 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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Getting their wish, there will be no other type of vehicle on the road - as for you driving: where and who would sell you, and outlaw, fuel? So you do not need to be worried about being the target of a Hellfire missile, just how big your waist will get from sitting on the couch all day.


5 posted on 02/04/2018 9:46:36 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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From the ‘people’s ride’ to ‘Big Brother’s Transport Arm’.
Must be lefties. They want freedom for all until they
get enough power to make freedom their exclusive property.


6 posted on 02/04/2018 9:47:14 AM PST by Sivad (Democrat agenda = infiltrate, overtake, politicize, weaponize)
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There are several issues that get conflated. A rapidly increasing number of young people (and some retirees) in urban areas are finding it practical to dispense with their cars and rely on Uber and Lyft. This is interesting because we have always had taxis. The speed and reliability of taxi service, however, has been so spotty that most people preferred their own cars. Uber and Lyft seem to have upgraded quality and reliability to the point that people are willing to trust them as primary transportation. Whether that will continue as government regulators start to milk the cash cow remains to be seen.

As to self-driving cars: it will be interesting. If the density of the on-call fleet is such that a car will reliably appear at your door within a couple of minutes, do you really want to undergo the expense of a personal automobile? The self-driving car will still take you anywhere you want to go.

7 posted on 02/04/2018 9:48:02 AM PST by sphinx
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.... Lost my self driving 420HP fun car in an unfortunate boating accident last week.


8 posted on 02/04/2018 9:48:51 AM PST by 1_Inch_Group (Country Before Party)
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At least a self-driving car won’t over-charge you, and it certainly won’t rape you.


9 posted on 02/04/2018 9:49:09 AM PST by txrefugee
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I have been saying that this is how it starts for years now.

In the urban areas.

I'm in Manhattan on a regular basis as I have an office there. It's pretty much taxis, limos and Uber/Lyft service there already. I know some brave souls do it but it's crazy to take your personal car to Manhattan. Everything about driving in Manhattan is a nightmare from the constant gridlock, avoiding jaywalkers, navigating the various one-way streets, jockeying for position with the trucks and the double-length city buses and of course, the parking, in which you almost always have to hand your keys over to a guy who looks like he just got out of prison and then pay in the neighborhood of $50 to get it back a few hours later.

So I see it happening there first. Private cars banned. Self-driving taxis. You plug your destination into an app on your phone and the next available pulls up to you (flashing your name on top) and you step inside. You are taken to your destination and your credit card is being debited for the trip. No tipping unless you want to give the car a little rub and tap on the way out. For the poorer people, well, you need to rely on the city buses and subways.

It's happening. For better or for worse. Brave new world. There is nothing we can do to stop it.

10 posted on 02/04/2018 9:52:44 AM PST by SamAdams76
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What destination does the “self driving” car choose:

If you miss a car payment or there’s a mistake in your payment record?

If you want to attend a Tea Party or Trump rally and somebody else doesn’t want you to?

If the police want to talk to you but you don’t want to talk to them at the moment?


11 posted on 02/04/2018 9:57:05 AM PST by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: sphinx
do you really want to undergo the expense of a personal automobile?

Maybe I do, maybe I don't. But I want that option, and I don't want that option cut just because that makes life a little sweeter for (future) Big Auto. Do I want to heat my house with wood? Do I want to cook my own food? Do I want to pump my own gas? Do I want to paint my own house?

The self-driving car will still take you anywhere you want to go.

Unless / until:
- I slowly roll to a stop, or don't slow to a stop at all, because a bug or virus in the software in the car or in "the intelligent road" says so.
- Somebody figures out how much fun it is to broadcast fake or noise laser / lidar / radar / whatever signals to every car on Highway X for five minutes, either causing a crash in front of me, or me being in that crash.
- Some state or local or federal computer decides that I am the same Mr. Jiggy Boy who didn't pay his taxes or child support / is now on the Terrorist Watchlist / has violated parole / died yesterday / etc. (NB: One of these mistakes has happened to me.)
- Same but for my car: it's reported as the getaway car in a bank robbery / is overdue for maintenance / is owned by an Amber Alert guy / etc.
You get the idea.

12 posted on 02/04/2018 10:14:56 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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This is one of the opening shots in neo-Luddism. Technology will ever increase. Many jobs will be lost due to such advances. ‘Experts’ say this will be offset with higher wages for educated workers, etc. But, society will ‘suffer’ in many forms. Capitalism is a powerful tool that hits at the rules of society in often many adverse ways.
13 posted on 02/04/2018 10:17:59 AM PST by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: KrisKrinkle

Excellent points. I wasn’t even thinking as I was writing my post (just below yours) that we are subject not just to mistakes and incompetence, but now also to deliberate and malicious baseless persecution by any level of our government. 200 miles from home, you give somebody with a badge an answer he doesn’t like, and rightly or wrongly he calls the big ignition switch in the sky. You think he was doing it just to mess with you, tell it to the judge.


14 posted on 02/04/2018 10:24:14 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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There was a science fiction story I read years ago, probably something from Robert Heinlein, that featured driverless taxis (except these taxis could fly). Once inside the taxi, the government could easily lock the doors and send the taxi directly to the police station instead of to the intended destination and in fact, that’s exactly what happened to one of the protagonists in the novel. He thought he was going to have dinner with his girlfriend but it did not quite work out that way for him. Instead, he was taken into custody.


15 posted on 02/04/2018 10:24:22 AM PST by SamAdams76
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Didn’t take long for the companies that ousted the rent seeking taxi monopolies, to want to become rent seeking monopolies themselves!

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.


16 posted on 02/04/2018 10:28:32 AM PST by glorgau
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Of course the city busses will be driverless too, as well as the subways, I mean why not?


17 posted on 02/04/2018 10:39:27 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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Another reason I don’t live in libtard urban areas.


18 posted on 02/04/2018 10:40:33 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Theoria

I just see the driver assist features becoming more prevalent until suddenly you’re at the point where the car really can drive itself, richies first, rabble later.


19 posted on 02/04/2018 10:41:39 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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regulatory capture is right !

happens in every industry that socialists want to apply Soviet planning methods to.


20 posted on 02/04/2018 10:50:02 AM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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