Inside The HPSCI Memo – A Key Distinction Being Conflated “Title I” -vs- “Title VII”

Conservative Treehouse ^ | 1/2/2018 | Sundance

[whiterhino]

… To spy on Americans through a FISA court, the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power. (That spy would be Carter Page. - poster)

There is a key distinction being overlooked, perhaps conflated, by many who are reviewing the recently released HPSCI memo as it relates to the outlined targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page.

In the HPSCI outline it specifically notes the targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page was NOT a FISA Title VII search request. Title VII is FISA(702), the incidental collection of U.S. person information as it relates to National Security or Counterintelligence operations targeting foreign individuals... More at Source.

[Liz]

Calypso Louis was also on speed-dial, calling the shots for the Halfrican.

BFF----then State Sen Obama at a meeting of the Congressional Black Caucus (that suppressed this image).

[rwilson99]

Oct. 9th - You’d be in jail.
Oct. 20th - Al Smith Dinner
Oct. 21st - The FBI gets nervous and goes all in on Andy’s insurance policy.

[Billyv]

Think ghostbusters. The two dogs, one of which is the keymaster, they got together to release the demon. The Donald stepped in the breach. Now it is time to cross the streams. The tools for this exist in the Constitution through the separation of powers. The Presidents authority is well spelled out, Congressional authority for oversight and impeachment are well spelled out, the Supreme Court Authority is also spelled out.

Have we the statesmen in office to faithfully carry out their Constitutional Duties to save our Republic? I pray they will put their Sacred duty under the oath of office above personal/political ideologies. Amen.

[Ann Archy]

I remember that!! Wonder if our Pubbies do! OMG!

[Flick Lives]

But as we know from Snowden and other whistleblowers, the FBI and the US intelligence agencies have so much information on what's going on in the world that the FBI probably knew themselves from other technology there was no such meeting with Carter Page and these Russians and pretended otherwise just so they could spy on Trump people.

Exactly. Like a cheater who has stollen the answers to the exam questions ahead of the exam, the FBI has access to all the raw intel on everyone, courtesy of the NSA. When they need to "get" someone, and everyone is guilty of breaking *some* law, the FBI just pulls the "answer" from the NSA data. Then it creates the legal fig leaf of going thru whatever motions are still required to preserver the illusion that the country operates under a law of checks and balances with peoples' rights preserved.

Thru Hillary, the FBI was obsessed with spying on the Trump campaign. The FBI pulls the raw intel and finds... nothing of substance to use as a pretext. Apparently the best they could find was Carter Page talking to a Russian. But you can't go to the FISA court and say you need to wiretap the guy based on your wiretap info from the guy you want to wiretap. Doesn't look good. So they unearth the article in Yahoo news as their non-wiretap "source".

[bitt]

thanks, BA

INTERES- STING! PING

[bitt]

LET’S SEE THE PDBs! Obama knew every day how this was proceeding.. and let everyone and his mother see the PDBs.

[stylin19a]

So Nunes pulled that word for word from the article to seed his memo ?
What paper is that ?

[Golden Eagle]

Great post. Key points of the article:

The FISA ‘warrant’ request, against Carter Page, was made October 21st, 2016, under Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Meaning the surveillance application was specifically stating, to the court, the U.S. individual was likely an actual agent of a foreign government, ie. “a spy.”

Because of this direct approach, any group, organization or entity who came in contact with U.S. Person Carter Page was then open for ancillary review and FBI investigation. Those who engaged in contact with Carter Page became subject to surveillance and searches in the same manner as if Page was an actual foreign agent.

To spy on Americans through a FISA court, the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power. The law makes it difficult to show someone is an “agent of a foreign power” to make sure it is not misused to spy on Americans.

Claiming someone is an “agent of a foreign power” is a difficult standard to ever show, and should never happen to a domestic political opponent in a domestic political campaign. That is why the FBI had to cook the books — put a bogus informant on their team & lie to the courts.

[stylin19a]

Yikes...nevermind. My mistake. I am sorry for the mis-read.