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Inside The HPSCI Memo – A Key Distinction Being Conflated “Title I” -vs- “Title VII”
Conservative Treehouse ^ | 1/2/2018 | Sundance

Posted on 02/02/2018 11:04:34 PM PST by whiterhino

… To spy on Americans through a FISA court, the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power. (That spy would be Carter Page. - poster)

There is a key distinction being overlooked, perhaps conflated, by many who are reviewing the recently released HPSCI memo as it relates to the outlined targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page.

In the HPSCI outline it specifically notes the targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page was NOT a FISA Title VII search request. Title VII is FISA(702), the incidental collection of U.S. person information as it relates to National Security or Counterintelligence operations targeting foreign individuals... More at Source.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: carterpage; coverup; fisa; fisamemoreleased; memo; spy; sundance; title1; title7; trump
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1 posted on 02/02/2018 11:04:34 PM PST by whiterhino
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To: whiterhino

The thing that I get from this memo is that rosenstein is now compromised. He appointed muller! The FBI and DOJ are implicated in misusing fisa for political gain! How can anyone in congress not be screaming for a special prosecutor? What, are they going to let the fbi investigate the fbi again? We know where that leads.


2 posted on 02/02/2018 11:11:14 PM PST by JoSixChip (He is Batman!)
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To: Electric Graffiti

This is why 800 FBI files in Hillary’s closet in the White House was so important. This sh*t has been going on with her since 1992. Why did anyone think it would be any different? Everybody knows what’s going on, but there’s not enough untainted bodies inside the Beltway to take it down.


4 posted on 02/02/2018 11:17:49 PM PST by cincinnati65
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To: Electric Graffiti

Well in this case it matters because it means the lie was worse....


5 posted on 02/02/2018 11:21:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: whiterhino
the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power.

This must have been a claim that Carter Page was the "agent" of the Russians Sechin and Diveykin in the Steele Dossier where it was claimed that Page would try to lift Russian sanctions in exchange for payment from the Russians.

But as we know from Snowden and other whistleblowers, the FBI and the US intelligence agencies have so much information on what's going on in the world that the FBI probably knew themselves from other technology there was no such meeting with Carter Page and these Russians and pretended otherwise just so they could spy on Trump people.

6 posted on 02/02/2018 11:24:31 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: cincinnati65

The brazen psychopathic greed of the bent crank couple from Arkansas combined with the visceral hate for America of the O’muslim regime was a deadly combination, wasn’t it folks?


7 posted on 02/02/2018 11:29:04 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Electric Graffiti
That is the big thing here - the memo specifically excludes all those things tied to 702 - it's one picture of the puzzle which is now being publicly presented. Remember Sessions has said there are dozens of active "leak investigations" (where do those source from?)

Things changed, though, after Trump went to the Al Smith dinner and told the joke that Hillary says it takes a village and, from what he'd heard, she'd taken several.

Look at these dates:


8 posted on 02/02/2018 11:37:14 PM PST by Steven W.
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To: Electric Graffiti

Recall that the Left hates the police, the church, the family, and the nation and called out Trump for honoring these things in his SOTU speech. ‘aw hell naw, those days are ovah!!!’

And now they expect us to take them seriously when they defend the FBI from accusations of abuse of power and they attempt to call out those who question the authority of ‘the FIB’ as “unpatriotic” and Russian (Soviet?) loyalists???


9 posted on 02/02/2018 11:43:41 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: JoSixChip

>>What, are they going to let the fbi investigate the fbi again?

meybe the corrupt AF DOJ can pretend to investigate the FBI.

Again, we saw Obama’s abuses of power in the DOJ, IRS, EPA, FBI, State Department, and elsewhere.

None of what happened in 2015-2017 comes as a surprise.

It all rests in the lap of Mr. Obama. Rogue agents out of an office in Poughkeepsie or Cincinnati or whatever is a lie.

“I first learned of ‘this’ when I read about it today in the newspaper!”

Mr. Obama, YOU LIE!


10 posted on 02/02/2018 11:48:56 PM PST by a fool in paradise (Ask a lib if Alger Hiss colluded with the Russians.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

We The People earned it, in a way.

America was founded on political ideas that need a philosophical framework, not just a legal one. This was found in bible literacy, if not full classic Christianity.

If a people becomes distanced from God, who moved? Actually it’s mutual, as the bible says draw near to God and God will draw near to you. But the distinction is in the people, who can sin — not in God who can’t sin.

At any rate, I keep on urging people to consider the need to strengthen their overtures towards God, both personally AND collectively. The collective means is known as the “church” whether that’s a specific building, or believers of various denominations responding in love to each other through common areas of what they believe.

If love recedes, Satan is allowed to give us Clintons and Obamas. If love returns, God can give us Reagans and Trumps.


11 posted on 02/03/2018 12:00:52 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: a fool in paradise

A bath of spiritual light is the only thing that can rid us of such plagues.


12 posted on 02/03/2018 12:02:43 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: Electric Graffiti

Obama weaponized ALL the agencies....IRS, FBI, CIA, JUST US, plus the entire health system!!


13 posted on 02/03/2018 12:26:39 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ann Archy

You’re right Ann...It’s time they were held accountable. One way or another.


14 posted on 02/03/2018 12:31:56 AM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: whiterhino

What is missing from this evaluation: Inside The HPSCI Memo – A Key Distinction Being Conflated “Title I” -vs- “Title VII” is the fact that the Title I gave the FBI extensive wiretap authority. All Page had to do was contact Trump Towers and the FBI would then extend its net to include candidate Trump. This, I feel sure is what Rogers uncovered and what he told Trump. And why the following day Trump moved his operation to New Jersey.


15 posted on 02/03/2018 2:07:33 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: Ann Archy

He did that 19 days before leaving office.

In its final days, the Obama administration has expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.

The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html

There was something else that happened around that time but, I can’t recall at the moment...


16 posted on 02/03/2018 2:33:35 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.cwom/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: cincinnati65

Actually Comey has been burying crap for Hillary since Whitewater.


17 posted on 02/03/2018 2:55:30 AM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: whiterhino
My take away:

About three weeks before the election, Meuller friends Comey and Rosenstein filed false and misleading FISA applications to get direct NSA surveillance on Carter Page AND EVERYONE INTERACTING WITH HIM by any NSA means possible, and renewed them three times - essentially for a full year; on the basis of the DNC/Hillary/Steele/Orr dossier.

This was not just monitoring their foreign communications, but permitted monitoring of any and all communications of any type by any NSA means - of anyone having any contact with Carter Page.

Am I missing or misinterpreting anything there?

18 posted on 02/03/2018 3:16:30 AM PST by JustTheTruth
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To: HiTech RedNeck
We The People earned it, in a way.
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Not those of us on this forum who saw the Obozo train wreck coming from way down the tracks, when its headlight was only a speck on the horizon. Communists are free republic wrecking balls and now we are left with the task of cleaning up their destruction and putting the pieces back together. Commies will never stop trying to destroy America because America is the singular obstacle to their world domination. I am certain they are already plotting an encore, even though the embers are still hot on this latest coup attempt that is as old as Obozo.
19 posted on 02/03/2018 3:21:50 AM PST by iontheball (lLL)
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To: Ann Archy
Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA) told Roland Martin in a February interview,
“Obama has put in place the kind of database… will have everything on every individual”

“The President has put in place an organization with the kind of database that no one has ever seen before in life,” Representative Maxine Waters told Roland Martin. “That’s going to be very, very powerful,” Waters said. “That database will have information about everything on every individual on ways that it’s never been done before and whoever runs for President on the Democratic ticket has to deal with that. They’re going to go down with that database and the concerns of those people because they can’t get around it. And he’s [President Obama] been very smart. It’s very powerful what he’s leaving in place.”

SOURCE http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/maxine-waters-obama-has-put-in-place-secret-database-with-everything-on-everyone-video/

20 posted on 02/03/2018 3:22:32 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 Trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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