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Democratic countermemo claims FBI revealed Steele funding in FISA application: report
The Hill ^ | 2/2/2018 | josh delk

Posted on 02/02/2018 9:35:17 PM PST by bitt

A Democratic memo written to counter a Republican document released Friday claims that the government presented additional evidence that would undercut the GOP conclusion, according to The New York Times.

Democrats have claimed key information was omitted in the Republican document, which was based on classified documents that have not been released.

Republicans say in their now-public memo that the FBI did not reveal that information underlying a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) request came from a politically motivated source.

The Democratic countermemo reportedly claims that the FBI did reveal the source of the information was politically motivated, according to two Times sources.

Officials may not have told the FISA court that the information was partially funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee, the Times reported.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; clintoncampaign; democraticmemo; fbi; fusiongps; perkinscoie; steeledossier
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To: bitt
Officials may not have told the FISA court that the information was partially funded by Hillary Clinton's campaign and the Democratic National Committee...
...IOW, the countermemo isn't counter to anything but its own purported reason for existence.


61 posted on 02/03/2018 12:03:36 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: bitt

“Democrat counter memo” also needs to be approved by the HPSCI, then if there are calls for it to be released, goes through the same procedure for declassification, sent to WH, and only president Trump can ok it to be released.

Remember Nunes’ memo WAS APPROVED by the HPSCI. ONLY AFTER the call of it being released, then Schiff (and others) started calling it a Republican memo.


62 posted on 02/03/2018 12:10:23 AM PST by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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To: bitt

The democrats didn’t’ say it was the democratic opposition, but a political adversary.... inferring the Russians. Lying by omission.


63 posted on 02/03/2018 1:55:45 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: confederatecarpetbag

“This does not undercut the Nunes memo. Far from it. It adds the FISC judge to the jackpot,”

Additionally, this now places the Democrats also admitting that the dossier was a political opposition research document, contradicting their previous position. Maybe Trump should simply announce his appreciation for Pres O and Hillary showing the way on this “shady but legal campaign” tactic and express his excitement to implement similar strategy in 2020.


64 posted on 02/03/2018 2:35:31 AM PST by johncocktoasten (US Treasury, charging it to the Underhill's since 2009.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

If the judge is a Rat, he will lie, also.


65 posted on 02/03/2018 2:52:11 AM PST by djpg
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To: Fedora
So the problem is a corrupt FISA court acceptied paid "evidence" as real instead of blaming the DNC and Clinton for having it produced or the FBI and DOJ for happily using it?

Isn't this like blaming a store for accepting a counterfeit $100 bill you just printed yourself?

66 posted on 02/03/2018 2:57:35 AM PST by KarlInOhio (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: bitt

The question right off the top of my head is “What was this political source?” Could be anything. Doesn’t have to exist, or be accurate, or be named. Plus I don’t believe they reported anything of the kind.


67 posted on 02/03/2018 3:08:05 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Revel

And birth certificates.


68 posted on 02/03/2018 3:13:02 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Fedora

If the Democrats are wrong, then they are liars.

If the Democrats are right, then the FISA judge knowingly issued a wiretap to help one political party over another.


69 posted on 02/03/2018 3:15:22 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Liberal bastions are full of misogyny, drugs, pedophilia and racism (Hollywood, Academia, DC))
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To: bitt

Let me guess...the Democratic memo says there is additional evidence to support the FISA warrant but they’re not at liberty to talk about it. We’re just suppose to take the FBI’s word.


70 posted on 02/03/2018 3:28:13 AM PST by HarleyD ("There are very few shades of grey."-Dr. Eckleburg)
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To: Reno89519
Great posts.

IMHO The rats have always considered themselves above the law.So their actions had to suggest that they never expected Trump to win and none of this to ever see the light of day with a Hillary administration.

Problem is how many other issues are there where the Obama/Jarrett regime considered themselves above the law and did whatever they wanted.

I'm betting there is a bunch.

71 posted on 02/03/2018 3:34:41 AM PST by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave! MAGA!!)
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To: Fedora

They are flinging scat to spin out of their trouble. It has worked before. Talk until everybody is confused, declare victory and move on.


72 posted on 02/03/2018 3:36:27 AM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ilovesarah2012
Why not just ask the judge who granted the warrant?

Even better, there may be an electronic record of the hearing. Congress should subpoena it, if it exists. Per The Rules of Procedure for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court pursuant to 50 U.S.C. § 1803(g)

Title V. Hearings, Orders, and Enforcement

Rule 17. Hearings. (a) Scheduling. The Judge to whom a matter is presented or assigned must determine whether a hearing is necessary and, if so, set the time and place of the hearing.

(b) Ex Parte. Except as the Court otherwise directs or the Rules otherwise provide, a hearing in a non-adversarial matter must be ex parte and conducted within the Court's secure facility.

(c) Appearances. Unless excused, the government official providing the factual information in an application or certification and an attorney for the applicant must attend the hearing, along with other representatives of the government, and any other party, as the Court may direct or permit.

( d) Testimony; Oath; Recording of Proceedings. A Judge may take testimony under oath and receive other evidence. The testimony may be recorded electronically or as the Judge may otherwise direct, consistent with the security measures referenced in Rule 3.

73 posted on 02/03/2018 3:42:43 AM PST by TheCipher (To my mind Judas Iscariot was nothing but a low, mean, premature Congressman. - Mark Twain)
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To: Fedora
And this helps their case how?

Because the memo claims the FISA warrant was tainted because the FBI allegedly hid the political motivation behind the creation of the memo.

74 posted on 02/03/2018 3:54:18 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: bitt

I see there are many of us who feel the same:

1. The judge was told the information was tainted, but didn’t care.’

OR
2. The judge was not told and we are back to original memo.

Question: What judge, in his right mind, is going to say...
“Oh, yeah, I knew the info was crap.”

Interesting to watch.


75 posted on 02/03/2018 4:20:44 AM PST by Maris Crane (`)
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To: bitt

Is the Steele dossier the primary reason for the Mueller investigation?


76 posted on 02/03/2018 4:23:22 AM PST by Pietro
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To: snarkytart

Better yet, reveal the FISA application, unredacted. At this point, I don’t trust the government to tell the truth.


77 posted on 02/03/2018 4:35:48 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: DoodleDawg
And this helps their case how?
Because the memo claims the FISA warrant was tainted because the FBI allegedly hid the political motivation behind the creation of the memo.

But if true, then they are alleging that the FISA court accepted a politically paid-for basis as a reason to allow that political party to use the government resources to spy on the other party... and thus, once again, the FBI, FISA, and others are in major need of overhaul. Either way, the Swamp and the Dems are both in it up to their eyeballs, and apparently are admitting it now.

78 posted on 02/03/2018 4:37:17 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: bitt

So now they’ve decidedto throw the Fisa judge underthe bus


79 posted on 02/03/2018 4:38:58 AM PST by nikos1121 (Tax cuts should be retro-active to January 1, 2017!!!!)
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To: Brown Deer

It seems Steel talked to some Reporter Iskoff who worked for YAHOO. Iskoff wrote a story on Carter page based on the interview with Steel. Other sources picked up the story line. These stories were then used with the Steele Dossier. The judges were not told the ONLY source of the BS was Steele. So technically the Democrats are correct. But they omit also.


80 posted on 02/03/2018 4:46:45 AM PST by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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