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Are We Heading for an Immigration Sellout?
Townhall.com ^ | January 28, 2018 | Derek Hunter

Posted on 01/28/2018 5:23:08 AM PST by Kaslin

If I’d told you 2 years ago journalists would scramble to “report” on the allegation President Donald Trump wanted to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller seven months ago like it A) just happened, and B) actually happened (as in he was fired), you would’ve thought I was lying to you. But it’s all too real, and someone will likely win a journalism award for it.

But in an age of frantic reporting over rumors, lies, and non-stories, the pearl-clutching class chose a faux-scandal over some real news – that the White House is open to selling out on immigration. Oh, they mentioned it, but it wasn’t nearly as important as the alleged prospect of the President wanting to fire someone he has every Constitutional right to fire.

It deserves more than a mention.

The White House announced their end of a deal on the so-called “DREAMers,” the people the media constantly remind everyone are in the country illegally “through no fault of their own,” and it’s bad.

First off, can we just say that the country owes these adults (because they’re all adults now) nothing. Their parents broke the law, knowingly and willingly. The idea that granting them citizenship is the only “moral” option because they’re here “through no fault of their own” is ridiculous. There are millions of Americans with parents in prison, should their parents be released because leaving someone without their parent is a situation they’re in “through no fault of their own”? If someone embezzled millions of dollars and spoiled their kids with the money, should the kids get to keep the house and all their gifts purchased with stolen money because they’d obtained them from stolen money “through no fault of their own”? Hell no.

Worse is President Trump’s plan grants amnesty to 1.8 million illegal alien DREAMers, not the 700-800 thousand who’ve actually registered for the program. Why? It doesn’t matter why. A case can be made for those who did register being granted something, including the ability to stay in the country legally (though not citizenship), but what is the rationale for extending it to people who didn’t bother to comply with then-President Barack Obama’s DACA program? None.

You can argue, and liberals do, that many people who qualified for DACA didn’t register because they were afraid the government would use that information to find them and deport them. Who cares? They were offered a chance to get right with the law and they passed – game over. If they’re so paranoid that they think the feds are going to hunt them down, that this was all a trick to “get” them, the odds of them being productive members of society are slim to none.

If these DREAMers want to be angry at someone it should be their parents, not the government. Their parents screwed them over, and it’s not our responsibility to make it right.

The President wants a deal so badly he’s willing to give Democrats what they want right now in exchange for it. But, as is always the case with Democrats, some of what they want is never good enough. Chuck Schumer has rejected Trump’s offer of 1.8 million new Democratic Party voters in exchange for a wall and a few other reforms, and activist groups immediately denounced it as racist because, well, they denounce everything as racist.

What gives me hope that there won’t be a deal is that last bit – that liberals don’t really want one. If there’s a deal the issue goes away. Democrats can’t run on “protecting the DREAMers” and activists have one less issue to fundraise off of. At least until the next group of illegal alien children start demanding the same special treatment.

And that’s the real problem – it rewards people for something they shouldn’t be rewarded for. If you needed a new laptop and a generous friend gave you one, you’d be happy. But if your friend stole it, when the police found your friend you’d have to give it back, even though you didn’t steal it or know it was stolen. American citizenship, even 12 years down the road, shouldn’t be awarded to someone who broke the law, whether they were in on it or not.

The rest of the President’s offer isn’t so terrible, though I don’t think it goes far enough. There should be an end to birthright citizenship too. But the only offer he should have made is permanent resident status with no path to citizenship for DREAMers. If they want citizenship they have to go through the process like everyone else, and even a DUI gets them the boot. Each, at a minimum, should be judged as individuals, evaluated one at a time. Trump supports merit-based immigration reform, the DREAMers are a good of a place as any to start with that.

Am I heartless? Probably. But I really don’t care. When, as happened again this week, I see illegal aliens taking to the streets to DEMAND our government appease their demands, up to and including allowing their parents be allowed to stay too, I lose all sympathy. I realize they’re the fringe, just like every other obnoxious left-wing group, and there are many more who are fine people, but I don’t care. Our college campuses are already full of self-entitled leftists demanding special treatment who are natural born citizens, we don’t need to import more.

This opening offer from the White House has me worrying that the President’s desire for a deal of any kind will end up with him signing a bill, any bill, just to check that box. Compassion is the worst rationale for legislation, it never leads anywhere good.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; concerntrolling; daca; illegalimmigrants; pearlclutching
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1 posted on 01/28/2018 5:23:08 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Matthew 17:20.

:-)


2 posted on 01/28/2018 5:26:19 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Kaslin
A sellout?

Better not!

3 posted on 01/28/2018 5:27:16 AM PST by Rapscallion (The tragedy of politics is that it can make people hate each other.)
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To: mewzilla

Bump


4 posted on 01/28/2018 5:34:23 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

“We Heading for an Immigration Sellout?

Can these people please just STFU?

Now I know why I hate conservative news sites as much as leftist.

One side just lies, while the right side just tries to knee-cap with made up headlines in the form of things they THINK someone is going to do.


5 posted on 01/28/2018 5:44:23 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Kaslin

Okay, I want amnesty for violating a law, such as not having to pay income tax. I want a “bill of love” that would shield me from the IRS.

After all, I work hard and want a better life. And I also have a government documented paper trail from the minute of my birth.

But I don’t vote democrat, so I probably don’t deserve such things.


6 posted on 01/28/2018 5:45:33 AM PST by odawg
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To: Kaslin

Trump knows that the dims will never agree to the wall . . . he is calling their bluff.


7 posted on 01/28/2018 5:46:43 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: Kaslin
Sadly it's looking like one .

Giving 1.8 millions invaders and there immediate family estimated as another 8 million Amnesty including voting rights before you even negotiate in a
disaster .

Yes ,Trump plan gives 9-10 million Amnesty .

Trump is too busy trying to sign stuff like that disastrous
Obamacare Fix and not reading the details.

This smells like the Senate Gope cooked this disaster up
and Trump wants to play the Compassion Card.

The Huge Cave will end up causing the 18 midterms to be a disaster for
Trump .

Laura Ingram radio show opened the lines to callers and it was all anti Amnesty calls and betrayal !

This mistake is on the level of the Sessions appointment .

I suspect Ivanka and Jared and Kelly helped in the Cave .

8 posted on 01/28/2018 5:47:32 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: Kaslin

Nothing has happened yet and I never remember Trump saying he was going to deport all of them. You won’t have trucks scouring the barrio for old ladies


9 posted on 01/28/2018 5:52:54 AM PST by Sybeck1
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To: Kaslin

This may not be the proper post for what is being suggested, but an article by Daniel Greenfield entitled “THIS CIVIL WAR” should be read by all. He gave this speech recently at the South Carolina Tea Party Convention. It would be worth your time reading.


10 posted on 01/28/2018 5:53:08 AM PST by mulligan (The)
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To: Kaslin

It’s seems we are screwed no matter what, the proposal likely will be rejected by all.

But then, that seems to mean, “chain migration” stays no matter what, that is 800,000-1,000,000 each year it seems to me coming in and possibly legally, that just can’t be turned off like water... people are in the system, in the pipe, for the next 17 years. Add to this the whole birthright issue, lottery and so forth.

And spare me the “I want this, I want this, etc.”, we all do but it does have to be done inside the framework of legislation.


11 posted on 01/28/2018 5:54:40 AM PST by BeadCounter
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To: Pilgrim's Progress

He sure is calling their bluff


12 posted on 01/28/2018 5:56:58 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Sybeck1

Neither do I.


13 posted on 01/28/2018 5:59:31 AM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: ncalburt

Yes ,Trump plan gives 9-10 million Amnesty .

And the other 30 million will not be far behind as well as another 110 million remaining in the failed state of Mexico.


14 posted on 01/28/2018 6:00:17 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: mulligan
The speech is here.
15 posted on 01/28/2018 6:03:57 AM PST by thesharkboy (Charter member of the Basket of Deplorables)
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To: PIF
Sadly . The Trump plan is just the Langford - Tillis Amnesty Sellout plan

It's a complete Sell out folks .

Trump has messed up on the level of the Sessions or Reince Prebius appointments.

Millions will be voting the US into a Dem dictatorship hell in a few short years .

16 posted on 01/28/2018 6:05:38 AM PST by ncalburt
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To: Kaslin

An interesting, and angering, segment to watch is yesterday’s first segment on “Watters World. It’s with a W.H. spokesman, Raj Shah. He made my blood boil.

A fun segment to see is on Judge Jeanine when Katrina Pierson annihilates Chris Hahn re DREAMers.


17 posted on 01/28/2018 6:11:50 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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To: Kaslin

It is exactly what President Reagan did and it has been downhill since.

JoMa


18 posted on 01/28/2018 6:12:48 AM PST by joma89
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To: Kaslin
Simple answer is no The pearl clutches on FR are busy shouting that Trump is selling us out and they will never vote again. 😱😆😱😆 Trump just showed the entire democratic hand....he gave them the best possible offer ever. They refused. They won’t see anything close to this again
19 posted on 01/28/2018 6:18:25 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: ncalburt

You really want Trump to fail don’t you?


20 posted on 01/28/2018 6:19:42 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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