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Trump Immigration Plan Demands Tough Concessions From Democrats
NY Times ^ | Jan. 25, 2018 | MICHAEL D. SHEAR and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 01/25/2018 2:39:42 PM PST by Innovative

President Trump proposed legislation on Thursday that would provides a path to citizenship for as many as 1.8 million young, undocumented immigrants in exchange for an end to decades of family-based migration policies, a massive border wall and a vast crackdown on other illegal immigrants already living in the country.

Describing the plan as “extremely generous” but a take-it-or-leave-it proposal by the president, White House officials said they hoped it will be embraced by conservatives and centrists in Congress as the first step in an even broader effort to fix the nation’s broken immigration system.

But the plan — drafted by Stephen Miller, the president’s hard-line domestic policy adviser and John F. Kelly, the White House chief of staff — was immediately rejected by Democrats, pro-immigration activists and some Republicans, with some describing it as nothing but a heartless attempt to rid the country of immigrants and slam shut the nation’s borders.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 115th; aliens; democrats; illegals; immigration; trump; trumpillegals
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To: Electric Graffiti

The fact the Trump WH is able to compromise this much on foreign invaders is Sad .
The fact the usual WH cheerleaders are missing tonight shows the grand WH proposal crashed like a steel balloon .
The WH plan allows 1.8 invaders to drag into the
USA immediate family too so the real figure is more like 8 or 9 more million .


81 posted on 01/25/2018 6:45:34 PM PST by ncalburt
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To: palmer

“Can we deport 10 million illegals? No.”

That’s quitter talk. It’s more like 40 to 60 million illegal aliens and their anchor baby demon spawn...

Yes we can. I’m developing an app called ‘bean out’. Similar to Lyft and Uber only you pick up an illegal alien and dump them in Mexico. American ingenuity at its finest.


82 posted on 01/25/2018 6:48:38 PM PST by Electric Graffiti (Obama voters killed America...Treat them accordingly.)
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To: Dagnabitt

It is obvious that the Reamers are going to stay. The devil is in the details. There is a difference in an ordinary Illegal and the Reamer because of the method of getting here.

Trump is properly using this issue as a negotiating tool.


83 posted on 01/25/2018 6:58:10 PM PST by arrogantsob (T haos and Mayhem" at Amazon.com)
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To: palmer
Can we deport 10 million illegals? No.

We don't have to deport them. We just have to get them to leave on their own. If you doubt that's possible, then consider: their countries of origin got them to leave, so why can't we? It's simply a matter of incentives.

84 posted on 01/25/2018 6:58:47 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: Innovative
Those who are here, OK, but no more.

But that is NOT the plan. It's 1.8 million DACA people and their parents, and out with everyone else, far more than just the 40 million illegals currently here, on top of ending huge amounts of legal immigration that is even more insidious than the illegal variety---because we can't deport the bastards when we catch them!

85 posted on 01/25/2018 7:11:31 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: kevao
I agree on the incentives. However if our culture does not change we will never remove the major incentives. Many people think it is ok to go to the gym to work out and let some illegal mow the lawn. Many people think it is alright to have a lawn service that employs illegals. Many of those people are liberals and some liberals are much worse, they protect illegals.

One of the ironies of Trump's economic progress is that it will draw more people to America.

86 posted on 01/25/2018 7:12:35 PM PST by palmer (...if we do not have strong families and strong values, then we will be weak and we will not survive)
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To: Innovative

87 posted on 01/25/2018 7:17:16 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Innovative

Goodness, does this mean that conservatives must now hope that the Democrats will reject the deal?


88 posted on 01/25/2018 7:19:59 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: kevao

You can deport 20,000,000 illegal alien invaders...IF YOU HAVE THE CLEAR DESTROY TO DO SO. To say one “can’t is absolute BS.


89 posted on 01/25/2018 7:24:39 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Innovative

From the article:

**White House officials said that the list of enhanced security measures — which have been on anti-immigration wish lists for decades — were nonnegotiable. They warned that if no deal is reached, DACA recipients will face deportation when the program fully expires on March 5.**


90 posted on 01/25/2018 7:24:58 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ScottinVA

Let’s hope that Schumer and Durbin stand strong and reject this sellout.


91 posted on 01/25/2018 7:25:49 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Electric Graffiti

Yea, the Trump voters who sat out backing Judge Moore in December may sit on their hands again if Trump runs in 2020.


92 posted on 01/25/2018 7:28:21 PM PST by Theodore R.
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To: hal ogen
You can deport 20,000,000 illegal alien invaders...IF YOU HAVE THE CLEAR DESTROY TO DO SO. To say one “can’t is absolute BS.

But why do so if you can get them to leave on their own? Resources are scarce, and these immigration officials' time would be better spent protecting the border from invasion, not raiding 7-Elevens in the heartland.

Change the incentives, get the illegals to leave on their own, and free up resources for more important matters.

93 posted on 01/25/2018 7:35:12 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: kevao

Do both. GET OUT!


94 posted on 01/25/2018 7:36:09 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Innovative

The President is not a politician, but he understands compromise better than any repub in recent memory. Compromise is a 2 way street - here’s what I want for you to get what you want. The rats are used to getting everything they want while giving up nothing. Quite refreshing.


95 posted on 01/25/2018 7:50:29 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: tumblindice
I was gonna say somethin' but looks like you've already been taken to the woodshed ; -)
96 posted on 01/25/2018 8:36:23 PM PST by tomkat (bot for hire .. please outbid those cheap assed Russians)
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To: Theodore R.

I read that Democrats indeed are rejecting the deal.


97 posted on 01/25/2018 8:49:13 PM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: tumblindice
Stupid map!

Poland, Hungary, and a few others aren't "shithole countries"!

OTOH, quite a few of the supposed "non-shithole countries", on that map, are INDEED "shithole countries"!

98 posted on 01/25/2018 9:21:36 PM PST by nopardons
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To: montag813

Yes. I second that sentiment. Deport DACA felons and who were adults under DACA.

But in return, I want a permanent clarification 14th Amendment that clearly doesn’t grant citizenship to anchor babies. I want illegal immigration solved forever.


99 posted on 01/25/2018 9:45:41 PM PST by Crucial
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Reconciliation rule apply only to the budget, where filibusters are not allowed. This does not qualify. It needs 60 votes to pass.


100 posted on 01/25/2018 9:55:54 PM PST by Dave W
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