Posted on 01/22/2018 4:31:22 PM PST by 11th_VA
Just heard Sen Van Holland talk about this on PBS. The RAT plan is to get the bill out of the Senate and use town halls to force a vote in the House.
This helps to establish where his mind is. From Wikipedia:
“Van Hollen supports Obamacare and has defended it many times.”
If he has all the democrat senators and about four Republican squishes, he only has about fifty-two or three. And then there is the filibuster rule.
It won’t ever get out of the House.
“They get Daca vote free of the wall “
Bullshit.
McConnell committed to free, open debate on the floor of the Senate and then a vote on “immigration”.
Nothing else.
And the House and POTUS made no commitments whatsoever.
Commercials.
Am I wrong in thinking that McConnel did a good thing by refusing to use the “nuclear option.”
If I understand and believe this story, it raises a great amount of fear that this DACA thing could be passed if it gets 51 votes. Do we thank Mitch or is this a different situation?
I can only hope this is fake news.
This gutted the wall !!!!!We lost!! . . .
What was Schumer going to say? He blinked. He has to say he got something for it. The point is that if he had the cards, he would have already gotten the stuff he's claiming was promised.
Whether or not Schumer got a promise like that from someone, he has no leverage to enforce it, because Trump just showed he has the power to veto anything he doesn't like. Trump is just getting started. It was a stupid move by the Dems to focus everything on DACA, since it actually has less popular support as time passes. I'm actually amazed. Trump is just not afraid of them, and they don't know what to do.
You mean like, Schumer doing ShamWow?
Give us a link where McConnell or President Trump gave up the wall stipulation.
Same plan they had before “the Potemkin shutdown”.
The only deal that can pass the Senate is one Trump wants.
Trump can hold onto 40 votes.
Chain Amnasty
The only individuals who should be allowed to stay are the 900 out of 3.6 million ‘Dreamers’ who are serving or have served honorably in the U.S. armed forces and have no criminal record. The other 3.59 million rate the Acosta treatment: “Out!”
I like the spelling; it IS pretty nasty
“NO!! That was all traded away my McConnell. They get Daca vote free of the wall . How could that have been done???”
Has McConnell confirmed that the wall will not part of the DACA vote?
It am definitely nasty...
Try decaf. You are sounding like a pearl clutching loon.
Ok. How many in House plus they need a few more to override veto. The House is the play. Suck it Senate for once.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We not Awake, Newbie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No sir. He acceded to a wall killing free standing vote on daca. We were brutally screwed. We had victory and pissed it away, I think he did it for the rinos. Trump must now veto a popular bill. Disaster. If you don’t see it-— get glasses!! I have been proven 100% absolutely right as the day has unfolded. I am so furious at this sell out . You can suck it up butter cup. Disaster. No wall now!!
BULL SH*T.I believe this whack job like I believe Dickie Durbin when he said that Trump used the word sh*thole
McConnell said Border Security and OTHER items will be included in the discussion.
It is confirmed by thuis at Brietbart !!Schumer said, We will vote today to reopen the government, to continue negotiating a global agreement, with the commitment that, if an agreement isnt reached by February the 8th, the Senate will immediately proceed to consideration of legislation dealing with DACA. The process will be neutral and fair to all sides. We expect that a bipartisan bill on DACA will receive fair consideration and an up or down vote on the floor.
Can you read????
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