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“New California” conservative movement declares independence as first step....
Southern Arizona Examiner ^ | January 17, 2018 | soaznewsx

Posted on 01/18/2018 9:11:19 AM PST by yoe

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To: yoe
Image and video hosting by TinyPic We'll take the electoral votes too.
41 posted on 01/18/2018 10:56:17 AM PST by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all white armed conservatives)
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To: yoe

Love love love this! As a California who loves this state I stand with the majority of Californians who are fed up with ‘tax spend and and run’ democrats ruining our lives. Time to take our State back and start deporting illegals and putting the Sacramento Legislature barons on notice.


42 posted on 01/18/2018 11:05:26 AM PST by LOVETRUMP (should alwso)
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To: factoryrat

I like that. Set up a series of zones each with a military governor. Maybe a top dog over the whole thing. Until they can demonstrate the ability to govern themselves.


43 posted on 01/18/2018 11:24:55 AM PST by ichabod1 (People don't want to believe it be what it is but it do.)
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To: GunHoardingCapitalist
no need to make a new state, we will just become a larger Idaho and add to their electoral vote

Better to have another two republican senators

44 posted on 01/18/2018 12:46:51 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: MplsSteve

I live in NY. If you look at the 2016 election “by county map”. It’s a red state. NYC and Albany screw it up.


45 posted on 01/18/2018 12:49:21 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Flick Lives; yoe
"The State of Jefferson

https://ancestralfindings.com/the-ghost-state-of-jefferson-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-state-you-didnt-know-about/"

Yup. Their movement to create a 51st state has been around a lot longer.

Official site: http://soj51.org/

The California counties involved:

Their Press releases, White papers and even a radio program: Media

 

The State of Jefferson was actually the original idea of the mayor of Port Orford Oregon in 1941.


46 posted on 01/18/2018 1:09:16 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Reno89519
the chance of splitting California is 0.0000000000000000001 percent.

About the same chance of "turning it around" or fixing it.

47 posted on 01/18/2018 1:29:40 PM PST by doorgunner69 (Give me the liberty to take care of my own security..........)
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To: frog in a pot

New rules now.

The past does not indicate the future.

CA and NY are the history.

And a lot of CA hates the evil part.


48 posted on 01/18/2018 1:37:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: Reno89519

Negativity.

I think the State of Jefferson is an excellent proposition, as I live in SW OR. Maybe SW OR could join up with the New CA.


49 posted on 01/18/2018 1:38:15 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: GunHoardingCapitalist

I am all for that. The I-5 corridor and West, East of I-5 starting at the foothills of the Cascades (East half of Clark County where I am) 2 States. Let Jay Inslee have his liberal utopia and half as many electoral votes. Heck with it, no need to make a new state, we will just become a larger Idaho and add to their electoral votes. (I love me some Idaho!)

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Just make sure everything East of Lake Sammamish can be included on the good side.


50 posted on 01/18/2018 1:50:42 PM PST by lkco
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To: little jeremiah; LOVETRUMP
And a lot of CA hates the evil part.
Certainly, but what is the timeline for that portion of the population to become effective at the ballot box; i.e., removing its leftist legislature?

New rules now.
Perhaps, but those rules will not apply unless and until you can convince CA’s leftist legislature to agree to a split. What are the odds? They and every other socialist in the US and elsewhere will fight the issue tooth and nail.

It gives me little joy to play the devil’s advocate here, having spent most of my life living and vacationing in many of the most beautiful locations in CA.

America is structured to accommodate different viewpoints and those are expressed in elections. The fix to what we regard as the threat to CA will require thinking outside of the box in the face of unusual and extraordinary circumstances

51 posted on 01/18/2018 3:52:45 PM PST by frog in a pot (Islam advocates killing Christians but many of its followers pretend to ignore that. Should we?)
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To: frog in a pot; LOVETRUMP

The problem is that the veneer of civilization is now scrubbed off most or at least all the Dem politicians and many of the Rs or some,as well as many residents such as BLM blacks, La Raza, many or majority of illegals, “refugees”, Antifa types and all those who support these. Open rebellion is being not only fomented but practiced by state governments and localities within states.

When one side plays by the rules put in place by gentlemen of the past, and the other side s**ts on such rules and is actually in open rebellion, the solution has to be found somehow or other.

And waiting until the conservatives outnumber the commiepukes in CA, for instance, while they welcome criminals from all over the world to come and vote, is suicidal.


52 posted on 01/18/2018 4:05:59 PM PST by little jeremiah (Half the truth is often a great lie. B. Franklin)
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To: yoe

Hmmm...maybe Connecticut could break into two...Northwest and Northeast Connecticut could be a red state...


53 posted on 01/18/2018 5:53:44 PM PST by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Reno89519
Create change and success, people will flock to Republicans and conservatives when they see improvements.

Not the California I live in.

The liberals are in firm control, and will not be losing control anytime soon, even if, implausibly, all your suggestions were implemented.

Good suggestions, but it is pie-in-the-sky optimism to believe they can be accomplished and have the effect you think they will have.
54 posted on 01/18/2018 7:05:39 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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