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Turkey’s State of Emergency
The Nation ^ | 1/11/18 | Maurice Glasman

Posted on 01/12/2018 6:04:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil

Ankara—Politics always involves a tension between laws and leadership, accountability and action. Emergencies occur, the ship of state needs to negotiate the storms of unexpected events; there is a need to act. For those who believe in the priority of rights as an ideal of politics, this can be a problem. The Italian philosopher Giorgio Agamben mused on this in his State of Exception, arguing that sovereignty and constitutions are unstable partners, with the sovereign always longing to slip the constitutional net.

(Excerpt) Read more at thenation.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: erdogan; kurdistan; kurds; ocalan; receptayyiperdogan; turkey
1. I apologize for posting anything from "the Nation". It is an unacceptable leftist rag.

2. This article is by a Leftist member of the House of Lords.

3. The English bureaucrats after WWI created this division of nations that have divided Kurds into this witches brew.

4. The article is largely accurate about what the situation is. It may shed some light about what Turkey faces now with Erdogan.

5. I saw a photo this morning of a gathering of hundreds of Turkey's Judges and Prosecutors at the huge palace that Erdogan lives in. The never ending arrest and prosecution cycle continues with the trial of Demirtas.

Could the State of Emergency under which Erdogan maintains power actually be Erdogan's undoing?

1 posted on 01/12/2018 6:04:18 AM PST by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

Everyday must be thanksgiving to them.


2 posted on 01/12/2018 6:06:39 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Turkey for you, Turkey for me. Turkey, Turkey, Turkey”?

Headshake.

I ask, How can you soar with Eagles when you associate with a bunch of Turkies?


3 posted on 01/12/2018 6:12:25 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: Texas Fossil

Based on what was said last summer, I don’t think Erdogan is in great health. He has blood pressure and diabetes issues. At age 63, with the daily requirements to make speeches and attend party conferences....I think he’s way out on the platform to be replaced.

But I think the position by Erdogan...that his son Bilal would take over...hasn’t been appreciated by the Party. Bilal got into legal trouble for money-laundering and some Turks see him as a thug waiting to become the dictator.

The second son....Ahmet Burak Erdogan....got into some trouble for accidentally killing some noted musician in Turkey back in the late 1990s, car-accident if I remember correctly. No charges were ever done on him but he’s not exactly appreciated by the general public either.

There’s at least a hundred different views about Turkey’s past, it’s present, and where it’s going for the future. A fantastic vacation spot, at least before the coup...but it’s waiting on some kind of change that a strong leader could bring (sadly, it’s Erdogan).


4 posted on 01/12/2018 6:16:03 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Texas Fossil

Dictators maintain power through brutal acts and gifts. Saddam Hussein had somebody tortured and then gave him a Mercedes. He also sometimes had men tortured and their bodies delivered to their families with a bill for the bullet that killed the man. Kim in North Korea has had people killed by the most heinous means he can imagine. This is to tell everybody that they aren’t safe. But Kim’s cronies live in luxury.

The key to longevity as a dictator is the balance between brutality and largesse. Also, in who gets which of the two.

Of the world’s dictators Erdogan has the toughest job. His people not only have easy access to the West and to news and events, but they are comparatively wealthy as individuals. That’s not a good mix for today’s aspiring tyrant.


5 posted on 01/12/2018 6:19:09 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Thanks. A good statement about what Edogogan the Islamist faces.

His is a Fascist world.


6 posted on 01/12/2018 6:35:48 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: pepsionice

Erdogan’s actions have seriously weakened the Turkish Military, have destroyed the effectiveness of the Turkish education system, seriously weakened the Turkish economy.

The sane people there know he is serious trouble, the Kemalist certainly are still a threat to his existance and the Insane are running the Asylum.


7 posted on 01/12/2018 6:39:52 AM PST by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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