Posted on 01/07/2018 2:42:40 PM PST by Syncro
In a post on Sunday, Kinga staunch pro-American immigration reformer who has long opposed mass immigrationurged Trump to steer clear of a plan that would begin with giving amnesty to nearly 800,000 illegal aliens shielded from deportation by the President Obama-created Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program.
According to King, such an amnesty deal, even if it is coupled with a plan to reduce legal immigration levels to benefit Americas working and middle class, would cause a surge at the U.S.-Mexico border of illegal aliens while continuing to circumvent the Rule of Law:
Kings assertion that a DACA amnesty would lead to more illegal immigration is readily backed up by border-crossings in November 2017 and the rate of illegal aliens coming to the southern border when Obama was implementing the DACA program.
Between Fiscal Year 2011 and Fiscal Year 2014, the same period when DACA was being implemented, border-crossings nearly tripled as illegal aliens sought to gain the temporary amnesty status that came along with having DACA protection.
Likewise, in November 2017 when Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and establishment Republicans and Democrats endorsed a plan to give amnesty to DACA illegal aliens, border-crossings ticked back up to Obama-era levels, as Breitbart News reported:
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Not only LAW, but SETTELED LAW.
Those that hate America, the rule of law, and pre born babies are the worst kind of people.
They think the Supreme Court can make laws, but they CAN'T as we all know. It's a constitution thingie of course.
The forces of evil are fighting in the heavens against God's army of angels
The demonic forces have a pretty strong hold on this little planet
Hopefully Trump can direct our country back to the roots of this Constitutional Republic
Agreed. My point was that he shouldn't have to. This was likely Trump's defining issue and it's alarming that anyone should have to hold his feet to the fire on it.
Your assumption re Trump is way off.
Trump has clearly indicated he is willing to let the "dreamers" stay under certain circumstances. What am I missing?
Obama created DACA, the congress wouldnt touch it. So he did an illegal law breaking EO.
Yes, of course. At this point, I can only guess you misunderstood my previous post. Or, you thought you were replying to someone else.
From someone who remembers the 86 amnesty.
We were told the amnesty would only net about 300K people total.
Later we found out it was over 3M total.
OVER ten TIMES the number we were ‘told’ during negotiations.
SO, if they’re TELLING us 800K DACA ‘kids’, we’ll be lucky if it’s a person less than 10M once they’re all done.
Now add their relatives to that.
Easily 20M. Or more.
Your “guesses” just show you are opting out on reasoned debate.
I seemed to understand your post with more clarity than you did.
You post like a concern troll.
You're dismissed
On the contrary, I was diligently seeking reasoned debate. My guesses were only trying to convey my attempts to understand your position.
In your original post to me, you made three statements. Since I agreed 100% with the first and last, the middle one"Your assumption re Trump is way off"was puzzling. So, I asked you to explain.
But, rather than engage in reasoned debate, you responded with insults.
So, if you're genuinely interested in some reasoned debate, I'll try once more: Do tell me what it IS that you perceive to be my "assumption" about Trump.
You post like a concern troll.
My only "concern" is in seeking some common ground and/or understanding our differences while, so far, you appear to be hell-bent on making an enemy where there may be none.
You're dismissed
LOL. Not so fast, FRiend. Now, I see we've both been here for the better part of 20 years. Am I forgetting... Did we lock horns somewhere along the way such that I should be spitting nails at you?
Gee, I don’t know.
I don’t keep track of those that lock horns with me.
And if I did, I sure wouldn’t spit nails at them as you say you would.
I’m not trying to make an enemy, just looking for clarification and calling out posts that seem emotional and not factual.
The example being your words “Trump has clearly indicated he is willing to let the “dreamers” stay under certain circumstances. What am I missing?”
What you are missing is that that is not true.
And this statement; “For anyoneincluding the presidentwho believes DACA would ever be the proper thing to do...”
So there is your assumption about Trump.
You can catch up by looking at the breaking news area here at FR.
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>> “What you are missing is that that is not true.” <<
Bad reading or loose memory getting to be a serious problem here!
If you read it in the MSFNM, it cannot possibly be true!
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“Bad reading or loose memory getting to be a serious problem here!”
Sorry about you having that serious problem.
Probably caused by your arrogant and stupid tagline that only shows how ignorant you are.
Perhaps you would feel more at home with smarted people like can be found at DU.
You DO realize that what is going on in Europe is A Muslim Invasion. These men for the most part are not migrants. They are, however raping women at an alarming rate in order to impregnate them and turn Europe into a Muslim Shithole..
You do GET that.. right?
So what do you think all of these invaders are doing here?
Take your bleeding heart and cover it with an American Flag.
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LOL!
Why do you always have to make a fool of yourself?
I was foolishly agreeing with your post, but will refrain from such folly in the future.
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You got the message and proved your tagline wrong again.
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Syncro, you are on a mission to make my tagline the national motto.
Do you have dementia? (serious question, not attack)
The fact that you couldn’t perceive that my post was in support of your post to which I had responded is troubling
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You never did learn the first rule of holes.
Remember how to spell assume.
If you really want your ignorance to go national re FR check with Evening Star.
He’s an unrepentant anti-freeper and his best friends hate FR.
Mostly women that emasculated him.
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If you have a gripe with evening star, take it up with him.
You seem to want to have a gripe with me, but are unable to aerticulate one related to facts on hand.
Soak it!
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A wise move, IMHO.
("Blessed are the peacemakers," you know.)
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I can’t lay claim to being a piece maker!
And I can remember when he was as sharp as a tack. Not a happy thing to watch.
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You seem to want to have a gripe with me, but are unable to aerticulate one related to facts on hand
Read my post again, with reading comprehension.
It’s your “gripe” with 40,000 freepers that is childish and foolish.
And you cruse me out with “soak it”
Oh my, you really told me off with that!
So a peacemaker in your eyes is an arrogant poster who puts down ALL freepers?
It’s interesting to see someone say they will never agree with anything I post.
Well that did come from someone that disagrees with all conservative...and Christian for that matter...truths and facts.
But then you and I are part of the stupid people here.
You can accept that for yourself, but I’d say ALL freepers are smarter than ed-sur
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Absolutely not!
I have no gripe with any functional Freeper.
You need help. You used to be sharp, but now you’re just irritable.
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