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To: BroJoeK
These made US independence a matter of absolute necessity, not choice, and most certainly not "at pleasure".

You keep saying "necessity" as though that were not a matter of opinion. I keep pointing out that the Canadians were treated just the same as the Americans, and yet they didn't see it as a necessity to become independent.

Indeed, about 1/3rd of the American Colonists didn't see it as a "necessity" either.

So your "necessity" reduces to "at pleasure", whether you want to admit it or not.

483 posted on 02/06/2018 8:10:55 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
DiogenesLamp: "You keep saying "necessity" as though that were not a matter of opinion.
I keep pointing out that the Canadians were treated just the same as the Americans, and yet they didn't see it as a necessity to become independent."

But Canadians were not treated the same, by any stretch of imagination.
Few if any of the two dozen+ items listed in the Declaration of Independence were visited on Canadians.
That entire history was different.

DiogenesLamp: "Indeed, about 1/3rd of the American Colonists didn't see it as a "necessity" either.
So your "necessity" reduces to "at pleasure", whether you want to admit it or not."

As you well know, there's a huge difference between "necessity" and "at pleasure" but you blind yourself to it because it strikes at the heart of your conceits.
Necessity, for example, is when your opponent has already declared war on you, as Brits did to our Founders and as Confederates did in 1861.
At pleasure is when you lose a valid election, as in 1860 or indeed, as in 2016.

Of course, Democrats are never quite clear on such matters, always super-eager to rise up and "resist" regardless of how legitimate their defeat was, right?

485 posted on 02/07/2018 2:23:23 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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