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To: Alberta's Child
In my opinion, one of the fatal mistakes Roy Moore made was his promise to vote against Mitch McConnell for Senate Majority Leader. That itself demonstrated his complete ignorance the elected office he was looking to fill.

Again, i'm having a hard time grasping how you think here. Very few conservatives are happy with Mitch McConnel, (did you see the racist attack ads he funded against Chris McDaniel in Mississippi?) and a lot of us want him out of the leadership. I don't see this as disqualifying at all, in fact I see it as the opposite of disqualifying.

Who the hell was Roy Moore going to support for the position of Senate Majority Leader

I've answered this before in other discussions. The entire statement is predicated on their being a challenge. If there is no challenge, it doesn't apply.

It was obvious to anyone watching the Alabama election process unfold that Moore was simply carrying Steve Bannon's anti-McConnell water here -- and that was really a tone-deaf, idiotic approach to a special election for a single seat in the U.S. Senate.

Even if you see it that way, this "tone deaf" approach had nothing to do with why Moore lost. Moore lost because a Democrat party motivated kook made 40 year old lurid accusations against him, and on the basis of these unproven accusations, his own party membership deliberately stabbed him in the back. (Especially Richard Shelby.)

77 posted on 01/04/2018 3:51:16 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
Again, i'm having a hard time grasping how you think here. Very few conservatives are happy with Mitch McConnel, (did you see the racist attack ads he funded against Chris McDaniel in Mississippi?) and a lot of us want him out of the leadership. I don't see this as disqualifying at all, in fact I see it as the opposite of disqualifying.

I think it would be an effective campaign strategy if he was running in a general election and there were a dozen GOP Senate candidates who ran on a platform of changing the Senate leadership in Washington. Absent that, this did nothing but antagonize 51 other U.S. Senators who were going to be sitting next to Moore in Washington every day. You don't even hear Donald Trump -- the original "Drain the Swamp" candidate -- calling for McConnell to be replaced. Why is this? Because Trump knows McConnell doesn't answer to him, and he has to work with McConnell to get anything done.

I've answered this before in other discussions. The entire statement is predicated on their being a challenge. If there is no challenge, it doesn't apply.

And therefore it was a useless campaign slogan. So the Alabama Senate race had two candidates facing each other who both despised Mitch McConnell. Great.

Even if you see it that way, this "tone deaf" approach had nothing to do with why Moore lost. Moore lost because a Democrat party motivated kook made 40 year old lurid accusations against him, and on the basis of these unproven accusations, his own party membership deliberately stabbed him in the back. (Especially Richard Shelby.)

Roy Moore lost because 600,000+ people who voted for Donald Trump in 2016 didn't vote for Moore in 2017. You can blame the allegations and the GOP leadership for his loss, but you should really be focusing on what happened with all those lost voters.

82 posted on 01/04/2018 4:01:05 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Tell them to stand!" -- President Trump, 9/23/2017)
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