Posted on 12/31/2017 7:23:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Taking Social Security benefits before you reach full retirement age may not be in your best interest.
Well cover Social Security benefit eligibility and factors to consider when deciding when to take Social Security.
The strategies for maximizing benefits can get complextalk to your financial planner or tax professional if needed.
When you start receiving full Social Security retirement benefits is a key question for your retirement plans. The first thing to understand is that the concept of full retirement age is a moving target that depends on your birth year (see table below).
You can elect to take benefits as early as age 62 (or earlier if you are a survivor of another Social Security claimant or on disability), or wait until as late as age 70. Theres no correct claiming age for everybody. But, if you can afford to wait, starting Social Security later than age 62 can pay off over a long retirement.
Here well take a look at some of the rules and guidelines.
Full retirement age (also known as normal retirement age) is when youre eligible to receive full Social Security benefits. The full retirement age used to be 65 for everyone. That has changed.
Under current law, if you were born in 1951 or later, your full retirement age is now some point after age 65all the way up to age 67 for those born after 1959. If you were born before 1951, youve already reached age 66 and full retirement age.
Retirement ages for full Social Security benefits
If you were born in ... | Your full retirement age is ... |
1950 or earlier | Youve already hit full retirement age |
1951-1954 | 66 |
1955 | 66 and 2 months |
1956 | 66 and 4 months |
1957 | 66 and 6 months |
1958 | 66 and 8 months |
1959 | 66 and 10 months |
1960 or later | 67 |
Source: ssa.gov.
If you choose to start receiving your Social Security check up to 36 months before your full retirement age, be aware that your benefit is permanently reduced by five-ninths of 1% for each month. If you start more than 36 months before your full retirement age, the benefit is further reduced by five-twelfths of 1% per month, for the rest of retirement.
For example, if your full retirement age is 66 and you elect to start benefits at age 62, the reduced benefit calculation is based on 48 months. This means that the reduction for the first 36 months is 20% (five-ninths of 1% times 36) and 5% (five-twelfths of 1% times 12) for the remaining 12 months. Overall, your benefits would be permanently reduced by 25%.
Source: ssa.gov
If you retire sometime between your full retirement age and age 70, you typically get a credit. For example, say you were born in 1951 and your full retirement age is 66. If you started your benefits at age 68, you would receive a credit of 8% per year multiplied by two (the number of years you waited). This makes your benefit 16% higher than the amount you would have received at age 66.
That higher baseline lasts for the rest of your retirement, and serves as the basis for future increases linked to inflation. While its important to consider your personal circumstancesits not always possible to wait, particularly if you are in poor health or cant afford to delaythe benefits of waiting can be significant.
Source: ssa.gov.
To review your situation, your annual Social Security statement will list your projected benefits at age 62, full retirement age, and age 70. If you need a copy of your annual statement, you can request one from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
Consider the following factors as you decide when to take Social Security.
1. Your cash needs. If youre contemplating early retirement and you have sufficient resources (adequate investments, a traditional pension, other sources of income), you can be flexible about when to take Social Security benefits. However, if youll need your Social Security benefits to make ends meet, you may have fewer options. If possible, you may want to consider postponing retirement or work part-time until you reach your full retirement ageor even longer so that you can maximize your benefits.
2. Your life expectancy and break-even age. Taking Social Security early reduces your benefits, but youll also receive monthly checks for a longer time. On the other hand, taking Social Security later results in fewer checks during your lifetime, but the credit for waiting means each check will be larger.
At what age will you break even and begin to come out ahead if you delay Social Security? The break-even age depends on the amount of your benefits and the assumptions you use to account for taxes and the opportunity cost of waiting (investment returns you could have made, inflation, etc.).
The SSA has several handy calculators you can use to estimate your own benefits. For example, if youre a top wage earner turning 62 this year, then your break-even ages are as follows:
Monthly Social Security benefits |
Retirement age |
Break-even age |
---|---|---|
$2,102 |
62 vs. 66 |
Between 77 and 78 |
$2,806 |
62 vs. 70 |
Between 80 and 81 |
$3,721 |
66 vs. 70 |
Between 82 and 83 |
In this example, if you wait until age 66 to take Social Security instead of taking it at age 62, youll come out ahead as long as you live to at least age 77-78. The break-even age goes up the longer you wait. See the graph below for an illustration of sample break-even points.
Source: Estimates based on data from ssa.gov, shown in todays dollars, using SSAs Quick Calculator as of 10/31/2017 for a person born 5/1/1954, with earned income equal to or greater than the maximum Social Security wage base. The SAA calculator and table above does not include a cost of living adjustment. The chart above includes 2% annual cost of living adjustment to include that in the break-even calculation. Time value of money is not considered in the example.
Theoretically, it shouldnt matter when you start to receive your checks, provided you have an average life expectancy. However, if you think youll beat the average life expectancy, then waiting for a larger monthly check might be a good deal. On the other hand, if youre in poor health or have reason to believe you wont beat the average life expectancy, you might decide to take what you can while you can.
While it may be tempting to look only at your break-even point and think about Social Security as a math equation or an investment decision, another approach may be to think about Social Security as a form of insurance.
Unlike conventional investments, Social Security isnt affected by stock market changes, provides protection against inflation and is designed to pay out no matter how long you live. Social Security also provides guaranteed, inflation-adjusted incomewhich can be expensive and difficult to replicate with investments.
Remember, though, that the average is just thatan average. If you have a shorter life expectancy than average, then early withdrawals might be a better option for you. If you dont, starting Social Security later can be particularly beneficial if you live longer than average.
3. Your spouse. If you have a spouse covered by Social Security, you can explore additional strategies to maximize the benefits you receive between you. Start by taking your spouses age, health, and benefits into account, particularly if youre the higher-earning spouse. The amount of survivor benefits for a lower-earning spouse could depend on the deceased, higher-earning spouses benefitthe bigger the higher-earning spouses benefit, the bigger the benefit for the surviving spouse.
For spouses with equivalent work histories and life expectancy, it may make sense for both of them to delay their benefits up to age 70, if possible. In other cases, especially when there are material differences in work history, it might make sense for the lower-earning spouse to file earlier while the higher earner waits until age 70. This is called a 62/70 split strategy.
62/70 split strategy
With this strategy, the lower earner files early at age 62 (or at full retirement age) based on his or her own benefit. The higher earner later files at age 70.
When a lower-earning spouse files for benefits at age 62, the benefits are reduced based on the number of months before full retirement age.
Even though an early-filing penalty would still apply to any benefits the lower-earning spouse received before full retirement age (whether theyre calculated based on that spouses own earnings record or the higher-earning spouses record), in the event of the spouses death, the surviving spouse would be entitled to their own, or their spouses benefit, whichever is higher. In the meantime, the lower earner can still collect something while the higher earner waits until age 70 for their maximum benefit.
In the past, couples were allowed to use a strategy called file and suspend, under which the higher-earning spouse would file and suspend their benefit at full retirement age, and then wait until age 70 to start collecting, so their partner could claim a spousal benefit. However, that strategy is no longer permitted.
In addition, unless you turned 62 before Jan. 1, 2016, you can no longer file a restricted application to claim a spousal benefit. If you are grandfathered into this option, however, you can still consider it. Heres how it works: At full retirement age the lower earner could file for his or her own benefit, while the higher earner would file a restricted application for spousal benefits. The higher earner would then wait until age 70 to switch to his or her own benefit, at which time the lower earner would switch to a spousal benefit, if higher than their own.
The process of trying to optimize your Social Security benefits over a joint lifespan can be complex. Talk with an advisor (such as a Schwab Financial Consultant) to provide an assessment and help with options.
4. Whether youre still working. Earning a wage (or even self-employment income) can reduce your benefit temporarily if you take Social Security early. If youre still working and you havent reached your full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($16,920 in 2017).
The reduction falls to $1 in benefits deducted for every $3 you earn above a higher limit ($44,880 in 2017), deducted only for income earned before the month you reach your full retirement age in the year you reach your full retirement age. Starting the month you hit your full retirement age, your benefits are no longer reduced no matter how much you earn.
Again, any reduction in benefits due to the earnings test is only temporary. You receive the money back in the form of a higher benefit at full retirement age, so dont use the reduction as the sole reason to cut back on working or worrying about earning too much.
Keep in mind that Social Security benefits may be taxable, depending on your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), also known as provisional income. Your provisional income is equal to your adjusted gross income (AGI), plus non-taxable interest payments (e.g. interest payments on tax-exempt municipal bonds), plus half of your Social Security benefit. As your MAGI increases above a certain threshold (from earning a paycheck, for instance), more of your benefit is subject to income tax, up to a maximum of 85%. For help, talk with a CPA or tax professional.
In any case, if youre still working, you may want to postpone Social Security either until you reach your full retirement age or until your earned income is less than the annual limit. In no situation should you postpone benefits past age 70.
For more information, see the SSA publication How Work Affects Your Benefits, and IRS Publication 915: Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits.
If you previously elected to receive early Social Security benefits at a reduced rate, but then change your mind, you have the option of paying back to the government what youve already received. After, you could restart benefits later to take advantage of a higher payout. But you can only do this for one years worth of benefits.
For example, lets say you elected to receive early benefits at age 62, but then decided to go back to work at age 63. You could stop receiving Social Security, pay back the years worth of benefits you received, go back to work, and then wait until a later age to restart your benefit checks at a higher level.
For important details about repaying benefits please read the SSA publication If You Change Your Mind.
Are you skeptical about the future of Social Security or wary of potential changes such as means testingwhich could reduce or eliminate benefits for the wealthyor an increase in the full retirement age? If so, you may be tempted to start benefits early, under the assumption that its better to have a bird in the hand than nothing.
The 2017 annual report from the Social Security Trustees projects that the Social Security Trust Fund has enough resources to cover all promised retirement benefits until 2035 without changing the current system. Over the longer term, changes such as later benefit dates or means testing (a reduction in benefits based on your other income sources) may be considered.
In any situation, if youre particularly concerned about the future prospects for Social Security, thats a good reason to save more, earlier, for your retirement.
Consider taking benefits earlier if | Consider waiting to take benefits if |
You are no longer working and cant make ends meet without your benefits. | You are still working and make enough to impact the taxability of your benefits. (At least wait until your normal retirement age so benefits arent further reduced due to earnings.) |
You are in poor health and dont expect to make it to average life expectancy. | You are in good health and expect to exceed average life expectancy. |
You are the lower-earning spouse and your higher-earning spouse can wait to file for a higher benefit. | You are the higher-earning spouse and want to be sure your surviving spouse receives the highest possible benefit. |
If you have a choice and are in good health, think seriously about waiting as long as you can to take your benefits (but no later than age 70). For retirees in good health, a long retirement, coupled with uncertainty about markets and inflation, are the biggest risks. Delaying Social Security, if you can, is effectively an insurance policy against those challenges.
Your situation may differ, however, and there are many factors to consider. Get help from your financial planner if you need it.
1Source: OASDI (Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance) Monthly Statistics.
Good hobbies substitute well for work for us. There’s no “have to...” with hobbies. To each his own.
Chances are your income will be low enough to qualify for obamacare, and probably free or at least at low cost.
Do I care that it supposedly costs the government $1000 a month to pay for my obamacare and I pay zero for a silver plan? Nope, not any more. All my life I've worked and paid for deadbeats - about time I started getting some of that back. It is not a sustainable system (obamacare) but I'm using it to close the gap between now and when I turn 65.
I don't understand the point he/she's trying to make. SS pays the same whether you sit on your butt at home and watch tv or whether you go fishing. I'm bewildered.
If they were awake that day in econ 101, they know that the COLA makes up for NONE of the the time value of money.
Economists usually separate the two effects. However, in the real world, interest rates usually combine the two. There are exceptions: iBonds and Treasury Inflation Protected Securities (TIPS) are both US Government debt instruments which explicitly account for TVM and inflation separately.
The bottom line is that the SS break-even calculation is a scam perpetrated by the government on the least financially sophisticated people in our society.
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Personally, I claimed at 62, the earliest possible age, both because I understand TVM and I also understand the returns on investments in stocks. By leaving my personal money invested and living on the government's nickel I have done quite a bit better over the years than I would have done otherwise.
There are other reasons to claim early -- money in my personal account is inheritable, SS ends when I pass, and my children get nothing.
Also, SS will run out of money in the ~2031 time frame, most likely earlier. I expect benefits will be reduced. It is politically much more difficult to reduce benefits that have started than to delay benefits that have not yet started. Take your money at the earliest opportunity.
Sage observations. Thanks.
Bump fer later
Im on my husbands insurance and am still 2 years away from Medicare.
You also need to consider the inevitable changes in Social Security that will be needed to keep the program solvent. In my mind it is more difficult to take away what you currently get in Social Security benefits than to come up with new restrictions applied to new beneficiaries. Those delaying getting their benefits in hope of bigger payouts might find themselves caught by changes in the current law that could leave them getting less or even nothing. Take what you can get as soon as you can or risk getting nothing.
My wife is a retired Texas educator.
I also work part-time and have my finances arranged so I don’t have to pay income tax on that money. We’re not rich, but more comfortable than most people.
Do you get medical coverage thru your part-time work?
That’s what I’m wondering about, what do people do between 62 & 65 for healthcare coverage.
The scope and depth of your reply is impressive; I can follow the gist of what you are saying, but am unable to understand it in detail and absorb it in whole. I have no legal training, and so while your comments seem to make sense, I unfortunately can't simply adopt your line of reasoning wholesale.
(As an aside: I think that you should have immediately "put your cards on the table" and begun with this in your very first posting in this thread, rather than making repeated opaque references to "unlawfulness" - which made you sound like someone with a "hidden agenda.")
But again, putting aside for a moment your (well-founded, it seems) accusation that S.S. is "unlawful" - How should one then proceed?
How should a principled person who has been forced to pay into S.S. his entire working life then act, upon reaching retirement age?
Are these arguments of yours mere musings, without any real-world impact, or is there a practical consequence to them - specifically, in regards to applying for S.S. benefits?
Regards,
Plus, we're seeing so many our age and younger either kicking the bucket or becoming incapacitated so they can't do much - the longer you wait, the greater the odds are that you waited too long.
I stopped buying guns and just concentrate on having x-rounds per weapon/type of weapon.
Dear Sequoyah101,
An attitude like that is priceless! Happy New Year!
Regards,
I get health insurance...life insurance...sick days..vacation days...
I NEED my money....SS will not cut it right now this year....maybe next year....
I'm glad that so many have schemes and govt pensions and tax free disability but most of us do not....
I can't stand the thought of paying more taxes on SS if I keep my part time job....
You pay for it just like everybody else. If that is going to be too much of an expense then wait until 65. I waited until 65 and draw full SS and I still work full time. Wife will retire early at 62 and change her job to part time. She still keeps her insurance. Many work part time just for the insurance.
My wife gets a pension and insurance thru her employer and still works part time for them. Together we are doing pretty well, but if we tried retiring as singles, not so much.
I’ve been trying to address the practical response as I see it since the first post. I’m not going to take something I’m not legally entitled to.
As for the length of various posts: I’m kinda like that one old Foghorn Leghorn joke: if I get the urge I can spit out more words than a dictionary in a shredder. Far longer, in fact, than the earlier post.
But a lot of the time I’m just like everyone else just giving opinions and not trying to outline some deeper view. These forums are generally casual conversations and, at least for me, I usually see long posts as best reserved for when a conversation has started.
Or, put another way, hitting people over the head with a long post, even one formatted to be easier to read than some wall’o’text, seems to me to be presumptuous (that they’d be interested in what I’ve got to saaaaaaay) and generally a lot of a lot.
That doesn’t mean I haven’t ever jumped in guns a blazing, only that I’m aware that not everyone likes being attacked by page-down-zillas, or even babies of the species.
I do a great mad scientist laugh ala Mandark from Dexter’s Laboratory.
All very good points and interesting on the inflation aspect. I will go read more on it.
Thx.
Good on ya. Live well, and keep ignoring the ankle biters.
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