Posted on 12/31/2017 7:23:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Taking Social Security benefits before you reach full retirement age may not be in your best interest.
Well cover Social Security benefit eligibility and factors to consider when deciding when to take Social Security.
The strategies for maximizing benefits can get complextalk to your financial planner or tax professional if needed.
When you start receiving full Social Security retirement benefits is a key question for your retirement plans. The first thing to understand is that the concept of full retirement age is a moving target that depends on your birth year (see table below).
You can elect to take benefits as early as age 62 (or earlier if you are a survivor of another Social Security claimant or on disability), or wait until as late as age 70. Theres no correct claiming age for everybody. But, if you can afford to wait, starting Social Security later than age 62 can pay off over a long retirement.
Here well take a look at some of the rules and guidelines.
Full retirement age (also known as normal retirement age) is when youre eligible to receive full Social Security benefits. The full retirement age used to be 65 for everyone. That has changed.
Under current law, if you were born in 1951 or later, your full retirement age is now some point after age 65all the way up to age 67 for those born after 1959. If you were born before 1951, youve already reached age 66 and full retirement age.
Retirement ages for full Social Security benefits
If you were born in ... | Your full retirement age is ... |
1950 or earlier | Youve already hit full retirement age |
1951-1954 | 66 |
1955 | 66 and 2 months |
1956 | 66 and 4 months |
1957 | 66 and 6 months |
1958 | 66 and 8 months |
1959 | 66 and 10 months |
1960 or later | 67 |
Source: ssa.gov.
If you choose to start receiving your Social Security check up to 36 months before your full retirement age, be aware that your benefit is permanently reduced by five-ninths of 1% for each month. If you start more than 36 months before your full retirement age, the benefit is further reduced by five-twelfths of 1% per month, for the rest of retirement.
For example, if your full retirement age is 66 and you elect to start benefits at age 62, the reduced benefit calculation is based on 48 months. This means that the reduction for the first 36 months is 20% (five-ninths of 1% times 36) and 5% (five-twelfths of 1% times 12) for the remaining 12 months. Overall, your benefits would be permanently reduced by 25%.
Source: ssa.gov
If you retire sometime between your full retirement age and age 70, you typically get a credit. For example, say you were born in 1951 and your full retirement age is 66. If you started your benefits at age 68, you would receive a credit of 8% per year multiplied by two (the number of years you waited). This makes your benefit 16% higher than the amount you would have received at age 66.
That higher baseline lasts for the rest of your retirement, and serves as the basis for future increases linked to inflation. While its important to consider your personal circumstancesits not always possible to wait, particularly if you are in poor health or cant afford to delaythe benefits of waiting can be significant.
Source: ssa.gov.
To review your situation, your annual Social Security statement will list your projected benefits at age 62, full retirement age, and age 70. If you need a copy of your annual statement, you can request one from the Social Security Administration (SSA).
Consider the following factors as you decide when to take Social Security.
1. Your cash needs. If youre contemplating early retirement and you have sufficient resources (adequate investments, a traditional pension, other sources of income), you can be flexible about when to take Social Security benefits. However, if youll need your Social Security benefits to make ends meet, you may have fewer options. If possible, you may want to consider postponing retirement or work part-time until you reach your full retirement ageor even longer so that you can maximize your benefits.
2. Your life expectancy and break-even age. Taking Social Security early reduces your benefits, but youll also receive monthly checks for a longer time. On the other hand, taking Social Security later results in fewer checks during your lifetime, but the credit for waiting means each check will be larger.
At what age will you break even and begin to come out ahead if you delay Social Security? The break-even age depends on the amount of your benefits and the assumptions you use to account for taxes and the opportunity cost of waiting (investment returns you could have made, inflation, etc.).
The SSA has several handy calculators you can use to estimate your own benefits. For example, if youre a top wage earner turning 62 this year, then your break-even ages are as follows:
Monthly Social Security benefits |
Retirement age |
Break-even age |
---|---|---|
$2,102 |
62 vs. 66 |
Between 77 and 78 |
$2,806 |
62 vs. 70 |
Between 80 and 81 |
$3,721 |
66 vs. 70 |
Between 82 and 83 |
In this example, if you wait until age 66 to take Social Security instead of taking it at age 62, youll come out ahead as long as you live to at least age 77-78. The break-even age goes up the longer you wait. See the graph below for an illustration of sample break-even points.
Source: Estimates based on data from ssa.gov, shown in todays dollars, using SSAs Quick Calculator as of 10/31/2017 for a person born 5/1/1954, with earned income equal to or greater than the maximum Social Security wage base. The SAA calculator and table above does not include a cost of living adjustment. The chart above includes 2% annual cost of living adjustment to include that in the break-even calculation. Time value of money is not considered in the example.
Theoretically, it shouldnt matter when you start to receive your checks, provided you have an average life expectancy. However, if you think youll beat the average life expectancy, then waiting for a larger monthly check might be a good deal. On the other hand, if youre in poor health or have reason to believe you wont beat the average life expectancy, you might decide to take what you can while you can.
While it may be tempting to look only at your break-even point and think about Social Security as a math equation or an investment decision, another approach may be to think about Social Security as a form of insurance.
Unlike conventional investments, Social Security isnt affected by stock market changes, provides protection against inflation and is designed to pay out no matter how long you live. Social Security also provides guaranteed, inflation-adjusted incomewhich can be expensive and difficult to replicate with investments.
Remember, though, that the average is just thatan average. If you have a shorter life expectancy than average, then early withdrawals might be a better option for you. If you dont, starting Social Security later can be particularly beneficial if you live longer than average.
3. Your spouse. If you have a spouse covered by Social Security, you can explore additional strategies to maximize the benefits you receive between you. Start by taking your spouses age, health, and benefits into account, particularly if youre the higher-earning spouse. The amount of survivor benefits for a lower-earning spouse could depend on the deceased, higher-earning spouses benefitthe bigger the higher-earning spouses benefit, the bigger the benefit for the surviving spouse.
For spouses with equivalent work histories and life expectancy, it may make sense for both of them to delay their benefits up to age 70, if possible. In other cases, especially when there are material differences in work history, it might make sense for the lower-earning spouse to file earlier while the higher earner waits until age 70. This is called a 62/70 split strategy.
62/70 split strategy
With this strategy, the lower earner files early at age 62 (or at full retirement age) based on his or her own benefit. The higher earner later files at age 70.
When a lower-earning spouse files for benefits at age 62, the benefits are reduced based on the number of months before full retirement age.
Even though an early-filing penalty would still apply to any benefits the lower-earning spouse received before full retirement age (whether theyre calculated based on that spouses own earnings record or the higher-earning spouses record), in the event of the spouses death, the surviving spouse would be entitled to their own, or their spouses benefit, whichever is higher. In the meantime, the lower earner can still collect something while the higher earner waits until age 70 for their maximum benefit.
In the past, couples were allowed to use a strategy called file and suspend, under which the higher-earning spouse would file and suspend their benefit at full retirement age, and then wait until age 70 to start collecting, so their partner could claim a spousal benefit. However, that strategy is no longer permitted.
In addition, unless you turned 62 before Jan. 1, 2016, you can no longer file a restricted application to claim a spousal benefit. If you are grandfathered into this option, however, you can still consider it. Heres how it works: At full retirement age the lower earner could file for his or her own benefit, while the higher earner would file a restricted application for spousal benefits. The higher earner would then wait until age 70 to switch to his or her own benefit, at which time the lower earner would switch to a spousal benefit, if higher than their own.
The process of trying to optimize your Social Security benefits over a joint lifespan can be complex. Talk with an advisor (such as a Schwab Financial Consultant) to provide an assessment and help with options.
4. Whether youre still working. Earning a wage (or even self-employment income) can reduce your benefit temporarily if you take Social Security early. If youre still working and you havent reached your full retirement age, $1 in benefits will be deducted for every $2 you earn above the annual limit ($16,920 in 2017).
The reduction falls to $1 in benefits deducted for every $3 you earn above a higher limit ($44,880 in 2017), deducted only for income earned before the month you reach your full retirement age in the year you reach your full retirement age. Starting the month you hit your full retirement age, your benefits are no longer reduced no matter how much you earn.
Again, any reduction in benefits due to the earnings test is only temporary. You receive the money back in the form of a higher benefit at full retirement age, so dont use the reduction as the sole reason to cut back on working or worrying about earning too much.
Keep in mind that Social Security benefits may be taxable, depending on your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI), also known as provisional income. Your provisional income is equal to your adjusted gross income (AGI), plus non-taxable interest payments (e.g. interest payments on tax-exempt municipal bonds), plus half of your Social Security benefit. As your MAGI increases above a certain threshold (from earning a paycheck, for instance), more of your benefit is subject to income tax, up to a maximum of 85%. For help, talk with a CPA or tax professional.
In any case, if youre still working, you may want to postpone Social Security either until you reach your full retirement age or until your earned income is less than the annual limit. In no situation should you postpone benefits past age 70.
For more information, see the SSA publication How Work Affects Your Benefits, and IRS Publication 915: Social Security and Equivalent Railroad Retirement Benefits.
If you previously elected to receive early Social Security benefits at a reduced rate, but then change your mind, you have the option of paying back to the government what youve already received. After, you could restart benefits later to take advantage of a higher payout. But you can only do this for one years worth of benefits.
For example, lets say you elected to receive early benefits at age 62, but then decided to go back to work at age 63. You could stop receiving Social Security, pay back the years worth of benefits you received, go back to work, and then wait until a later age to restart your benefit checks at a higher level.
For important details about repaying benefits please read the SSA publication If You Change Your Mind.
Are you skeptical about the future of Social Security or wary of potential changes such as means testingwhich could reduce or eliminate benefits for the wealthyor an increase in the full retirement age? If so, you may be tempted to start benefits early, under the assumption that its better to have a bird in the hand than nothing.
The 2017 annual report from the Social Security Trustees projects that the Social Security Trust Fund has enough resources to cover all promised retirement benefits until 2035 without changing the current system. Over the longer term, changes such as later benefit dates or means testing (a reduction in benefits based on your other income sources) may be considered.
In any situation, if youre particularly concerned about the future prospects for Social Security, thats a good reason to save more, earlier, for your retirement.
Consider taking benefits earlier if | Consider waiting to take benefits if |
You are no longer working and cant make ends meet without your benefits. | You are still working and make enough to impact the taxability of your benefits. (At least wait until your normal retirement age so benefits arent further reduced due to earnings.) |
You are in poor health and dont expect to make it to average life expectancy. | You are in good health and expect to exceed average life expectancy. |
You are the lower-earning spouse and your higher-earning spouse can wait to file for a higher benefit. | You are the higher-earning spouse and want to be sure your surviving spouse receives the highest possible benefit. |
If you have a choice and are in good health, think seriously about waiting as long as you can to take your benefits (but no later than age 70). For retirees in good health, a long retirement, coupled with uncertainty about markets and inflation, are the biggest risks. Delaying Social Security, if you can, is effectively an insurance policy against those challenges.
Your situation may differ, however, and there are many factors to consider. Get help from your financial planner if you need it.
1Source: OASDI (Old Age, Survivors and Disability Insurance) Monthly Statistics.
Boooooom!!! Well said!
I’m not getting your point there. Are you saying that it’s somehow morally wrong for me to use my social security money (which I paid into for 45 years) to go on a fishing trip?
If I die early, it won't matter how much Social Security I didn't get because I waited!
"Getting what's coming to me" with regard to Social Security is just not a motivator for me. So long as I'm healthy, I intend to keep working and will wait for Social Security as long as possible. I loved every job I ever had going back to when I delivered papers, bagged groceries and washed dishes almost 40 years ago.
I just looked up the maximum Social Security payout as of 2017 (it appears to be $3,538). That's only about $42K a year which is practically nothing. I assume it will be more when I retire but with inflation taken into account, it probably still be a piddling amount.
So I can wait and if I do ever collect it (instead of paying into it), whatever I get will be a bonus.
Never thought of that angle. Might make sense!
Just to clarify, I dont believe SS is a fraud. It is welfare. It is a vote buying wealth transfer scheme design. Anyone who takes it is accepting welfare. Anyone who depends on it is welfare dependent.
Will I take it? Yes. Will I support ending it today just on the cusp of collecting it? ABSOLUTELY YES!
Speaking as one over 65 but waiting, a relatively minor item is the fact that one starts owing Medicare at retirement age. Thus waiting for Social Security (SS) means a negative cash flow in terms of paying out Medicare the standard monthly Part B premium of $134. This is the minimum and does go up if your income tax AGI goes over certain breakpoints depending upon filing status. This increase takes effect 2 years following the filing of that tax return.
As for taking SS at 62 or later, look to your parents & G.Parents for a probable life expectancy. The longer that they lived, the more logic for waiting if it is economically feasible.
FYI: Taxation of SS is based upon a formula that takes 50% of SS Income and almost all other taxable income for that year. If that exceeds $25k for a Single (Filing Status) then the SS starts being taxable and increases with income up to a MAXIMUM rate of 85%.
Not sure ... but that may be another reason not to get married ...
When one is sarcastic the sarcasm is the point. The fund was intended to allow old aged and disabled people to subsist. It was to alleviate poverty in case you where disabled or outlived your means. It was not intended to enable the luxury of travel.
So when Freepers, though not necessarily you, whine about being defrauded perhaps they could examine the stated purpose of the program. Of course the stated purpose wasnt the intended purpose.
So enjoy your SS funded vacation it is only taking two working people to provide it toy you.
My dad retired from Boeing at age 62 and lived another 24 years. I retired from there at age 64 and am still alive (as far as I know) at almost 67. I started taking SS as soon as I retired, because one rarely knows how long one has to live in the long term. Could have retired without it, but it provided a very good cushion. Yes, you get increased benefits each year you delay, but would the Federal government do something that was in your best interest instead of theirs??? Methinks not.
First and foremost, because I could. Healthy and able to retire at 62 was a no brainer. A bird in hand is better than two in the bush. The time utility of the money in hand today outweighed the promise and value of more money down the road.
The government could keep raising the ante for when I could retire. I decided to take the certainty of what I could get now.
What if I got sick and couldn't enjoy it down the road? What if I waited and I died before I could draw it? The prospect of receiving more money as I got older would become a moot point if I died before I could start drawing it.
I thought it better to take it now, than to wait for more later. The amount of money I would have to forego while waiting until 65 or 66 or 70 to start drawing a larger SS check, far-outweighed any difference in the smaller amount I could start receiving right away.
My financial advisor said to wait until I got older. I did the opposite. He's since passed away at age 60 of a heart attack.
It's been 8 years since I started drawing my SS at age 62. I am still healthy and alive, and doing well financially. Either I made the correct decision or I just got lucky or both.
No regrets. Life is good. Enjoy the fruits of your labor while you can.
Happy New Year!
If your wife was born before 1964 she can take SS benefits at 62 and in addition you can get a check for half her benefits until you start taking your SS benefits. Your taking a check on her benefits does not affect your SS benefits.
Learned this from a retirement plan specialist we are working with. Just so happens we can take advantage of it as I am going to wait until 70. She is thrilled. That knowledge alone was worth the price of admission.
“Then came Penicillin.”
LOL. True.
Alex mountains from mole hills Quixote, babe, I want you to consider a New Years Resolution of being less the annoyingly combative cretin. You bring obtuse an art form.
Phil got it right ... sales ... and Im jaw-dropping good.
Social Security isn’t welfare if you spent a lifetime paying in to it.
Medicare Part-D otoh...
” -———and then Ill have to retire completely (ie not work) to see SOME of it come back.”
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Not if you’ve reached full retirement age——you can earn and collect.
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If you continue to work after you begin getting SSA benefits, you will probably be taxed on your SSA benefits.
As bad as that is, the law does not have a COL adjustment, so more and more people are being forced to pay taxes because incomes are higher than they were when Reagan signed this POS law, and when Clinton signed the POS bill increasing the taxes.
This taxation should be voided, but failing in that, there should be a COL adjustment each year that would stabilize the taxation, so it doesn’t keep increasing.
I’m sure Congress will get right on this.
Ok, Ill rephrase this a bit. Im not sure where your animus lies, this person is not a illegal or welfare parasite, hes one of millions our govt depends on are you upset he is proud and probably in the 1%? Thats how sales guys are! his Depending on the company or the exact job terms of the role,
a senior sales person is not only worth his weight in gold to his company and its clients not just in unquantifiable goodwill but in measurable results for the employer(revenues) and client (cost savings, throughput. Such a person can draw salary and commission and bonus and stock options >= the level a dr or lawyer can without having the responsibilities or demands of those jobs. And they like I can feel good were not living off of the taxpayers dime and be unaccountable job wise although its absolutely no shame to be fortunate enough to be working even in an overcompensated union position with non-merit based pay and benefits that have been collectively bargained.
Agree!!!!!
Money means nothing when you can’t enjoy it!
Foregoing monies now to wait for a larger monthly amount when you get older, doesn't factor in the total amount of monies you could receive before that older age.
Why wait until age 77 to break even if I can start receiving it now?
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