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1 posted on 12/29/2017 3:50:24 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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the leaders of a country with $20 TRILLION in debt should not start suggesting prison for those that run up a debt they cannot pay


2 posted on 12/29/2017 3:54:58 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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They have debtors prisons now — for unemployed and legally unsophisticated guys who are behind on child support payments that have a disguised alimony component.


4 posted on 12/29/2017 3:58:07 PM PST by Socon-Econ
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What about prison for TRAITORS such as Hillary, Obama, Jarrett, Comey, Jeh Johnson, Wasserman-Schultz, Huma, Holder, Power, Mills, Clapper, Lynch, Rice, Brennan, Rosenstein, Stzork, McCain, McCabe, etc?


5 posted on 12/29/2017 4:00:13 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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“Have they no prison? Are there no workhouses” - Ebenezer Scrooge


6 posted on 12/29/2017 4:01:35 PM PST by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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I wonder if anybody is going to read the article, or just make a comment to show off their Sessions Derangement Syndrome.


8 posted on 12/29/2017 4:04:20 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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I hope Trump fires him and Rosenstein. Washington is not drained/cleaned up.


12 posted on 12/29/2017 4:11:17 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (luke 6:38)
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Having people arrested for debts is a thing Jared Kushner is known for. I’m not certain how that is supposed to work, seems like judgments and garnishment of wages would work better since people can earn money to pay their debts instead of being a burden on the taxpayers sitting in jail. Trump and Sessions both would do well to steer clear of this narrative.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/investigations/bs-md-kushner-arrests-20170812-story.html


22 posted on 12/29/2017 4:41:52 PM PST by BlackAdderess (MAGA!)
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One thing Sessions should work on is how easily people avoid being served with their papers, since this seems to be a very weak link that should have a remedy with technology being where it is today. The courts are losing money on this and the rest of the taxpayers are being stuck with the bill.


27 posted on 12/29/2017 4:58:38 PM PST by BlackAdderess (MAGA!)
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After all, the best way to ensure that a debtor pays up is to throw him in prison. /sarc


30 posted on 12/29/2017 5:00:51 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Women prefer men with money and muscles. DUH!)
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We were all debt slaves. We were set free on 9/11/16. Sorry, used the military date.

Quite a coincidence though.

God bless.


31 posted on 12/29/2017 5:03:29 PM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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Jeff is focused on the wrong stuff


33 posted on 12/29/2017 5:12:01 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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With all the low hanging fruit, this guy had to find a 50 foot ladder to obtain a sour non-delectable bobble on the top of the tree not one single citizen was asking to have addressed.

Jeff! W T H ?


42 posted on 12/29/2017 5:32:06 PM PST by DoughtyOne (McConnell, Ryan, and the whole GOPe are dead to me. Are Alabamans tired of winning?)
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So you are bypassing the media middlemen, and getting your news direct from the ‘progressives’ now? How left wing of you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Dreams


44 posted on 12/29/2017 5:34:09 PM PST by PAR35
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I know of one individual who seems to just ignore the courts attempting to serve notice and eventually they go away without her paying a dime. Her method seems to be to just ignore all of the notices and file motions for dismissal monthly until they just give in. You hear on the news about an army of process servers chasing down that guy from the Daily Stormer but that is far from how they handle cases of people owing the courts money.


45 posted on 12/29/2017 5:36:21 PM PST by BlackAdderess (MAGA!)
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Looks like Freepers are keeping good company these days:

“Common Dreams has featured original articles by the following authors:

“Tom Hayden
“Jesse Jackson
“Molly Ivins
“Cindy Sheehan
“Bernie Sanders
“Ralph Nader
“Michael Moore”


48 posted on 12/29/2017 5:39:36 PM PST by PAR35
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Not on excerpt list and left scroll bar blocks the text - unreadable.

Here it is in full.

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During the holiday season, many of us think about what we can do to help people struggling with poverty. Attorney General Jeff Sessions, on the other hand, decided just before Christmas to rescind a guidance meant to protect low-income Americans.

The 2016 guidance, issued by former President Obama’s Justice Department, urged state and local courts nationwide to abide by constitutional principles prohibiting the jailing of poor people who cannot afford to pay court fines and fees. Jeff Sessions’ action makes clear that he and his Justice Department are unconcerned by courts trampling on the rights of poor people.

The Obama Justice Department issued the 2016 letter after reports and lawsuits by the ACLU and other groups revealed how modern-day debtors’ prisons function in more than a dozen states, despite the fact that the U.S. two centuries ago formally outlawed jailing people simply because they have unpaid debts.

These efforts revealed that poor people were being locked up in Georgia, Washington, Mississippi, and elsewhere without court hearings or legal representation when they could not pay fines and fees for traffic tickets or other civil infractions or criminal offenses. These efforts also show that modern-day debtors’ prisons result from state laws allowing or requiring the suspension of driver’s licenses for unpaid court fines or fees without first requiring confirmation that the person could actually pay.

Modern-day debtors’ prisons received unprecedented national attention in 2015 when the Justice Department issued a 185-page report in its investigation of the Ferguson Police Department after the shooting of teenager Michael Brown. It documented how Ferguson police sought to advance the “City’s focus on revenue rather than ... public safety needs,” leading to the routine incarceration of poor people to elicit court fine and fee payments, which raised due process concerns and reflected racial bias.

This wave of attention on draconian debtors’ prisons spurred the Justice Department to issue the 2016 letter on fines and fees.

Prior to rescinding the letter and other Obama-era guidances the attorney general claimed that such documents constitute overreach and “impose new obligations” on parties “outside the executive branch.” But that is not what the Justice Department letter on fines and fees did.

The Obama Justice Department showed leadership by reminding state chief justices and court administrators that the U.S. Constitution’s promises of due process and equal protection apply when courts impose and collect fines and fees. Far from creating new policy, the letter cited caselaw from the U.S. Supreme Court and other courts in support of seven constitutional principles. Among the most basic of these principles is the fact that the 14th Amendment prohibits jailing people for non-payment of court fines and fees without safeguards, including a hearing before a neutral judge to determine one’s ability to pay, and meaningful alternatives to jail for people who cannot pay.

Sessions’ withdrawal of the letter on fines and fees cannot rescind these principles or the caselaw on which they are based. Nor can it stop the ongoing momentum behind reform of modern-day debtors’ prisons in places like Biloxi, Mississippi; Missouri; Ohio; Michigan; and New Hampshire.

Several weeks ago, a federal court ruled that New Orleans judges faced a conflict of interest in jailing poor people for unpaid fines because the judges control the money collected and rely on it for court funding. That same week, a federal court issued a preliminary injunction halting Michigan’s system for suspending driver’s licenses upon non-payment of traffic tickets due to constitutional concerns. And days later, the Mississippi Department of Public Safety agreed to reinstate the driver’s licenses of all drivers whose licenses were suspended for non-payment of court fines and fees.

There is no place in this country for a justice system that lets rich people buy their freedom while poor people are locked up or lose their driver’s licenses because they can’t afford to pay money to courts. The momentum for change will continue even as the current Justice Department declines to lead by encouraging fairness and equal treatment of rich and poor.


83 posted on 12/29/2017 6:55:07 PM PST by Larry Lucido (Take Covfefe Ree Zig!)
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While “court fees” rightfully may offset the costs of providing the courts, I believe it wrong, and corruption-inducing, if a court “depends” on those fees for its funding.

We, the taxpayers, need to provide for our courts, but they should not be used as needed “revenue centers” where extracting all they can in fees is a necessity, or a desire, in how they are funded.

When someone does not have the funds for a fee, NOTHING stops the courts or the prosecutors from working out a payment plan, in installments of money or work from the person who cannot pay.

Suspending a driver’s license for failure to pay a court fee only helps insure the person may not keep any work they do have, or may get, that could help pay the fee. It’s stupid.

It seems some modern courts are in fact resurrecting de facto “debtors prisons”, and operating courts as a “revenue stream” inducing the collection of as much in “fees” as they can extract.


91 posted on 12/30/2017 7:11:08 AM PST by Wuli
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