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Beauty and Nausea in Venice
American Thinker.com ^ | December 28, 2017 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 12/28/2017 9:32:36 AM PST by Kaslin

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1 posted on 12/28/2017 9:32:36 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Art: a celebration of beauty and truth.
Po-mo "art": a celebration of ugliness, mediocrity, and banality.
2 posted on 12/28/2017 9:35:32 AM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: Kaslin
Been looking at some pics of works by some of the artists...

Gack.

3 posted on 12/28/2017 9:40:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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Impressionism. cubism, surrealism, modernism, they all suck..................


4 posted on 12/28/2017 9:41:12 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: IronJack

As the author of the article said, there is most definitely an element of “The Emperor has no clothes” with some of this “art”.

A few years back, a conservative friend and I went to Harvard Square in Cambridge, MA, a city right up there with Berkeley, Ithaca, and Madison with regards to its leftism.

They had a place outside an Au Bon Pain that was frequented by chess players, and that night, there was a “Poetry Slam” going on, so we stopped and watched for a few minutes.

There was a girl, dressed all in black, faintly resembling Ally Sheedy in the movie “The Breakfast Club” reciting a “poem”:

(Spoken in beatnik tones) “...and then he grabbed me and threw me down. And he F***** me. And then again. And...”

We looked at each other with this shared expression of “Can you believe these effing lunatics?” and then, looking at the people sitting next to us watching intently, a guy, stroking his chin and listening as if it were the most profound thing he had ever heard.

These people are completely unhinged.


5 posted on 12/28/2017 9:43:35 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: IronJack

“Art: a celebration of beauty and truth.”

Art isn’t always about beauty and truth is often ugly.


6 posted on 12/28/2017 9:44:00 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Red Badger

It always reminds me when I think of it, of the goals of the Communist Party in the USA (CPUSA) expressed back in 1958:

22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to “eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms.”

23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. “Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art.”


7 posted on 12/28/2017 9:45:52 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: American Liberty is the egg that requires breaking to make their Utopian omelette.)
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To: Kaslin

That is about when music became ugly.


8 posted on 12/28/2017 9:46:25 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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“Beauty and Nausea in Venice”

The nausea part reminds me of American cities. Beauty...not so much.


9 posted on 12/28/2017 9:46:44 AM PST by Bonemaker
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To: Kirkwood

Beauty is one of the great Catholic virtues.


10 posted on 12/28/2017 9:48:14 AM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Red Badger
That's a bit of a broad brush (pardon the pun.)

Does this Monet "suck"?

Or this Dali?

What do I know? I think there is some very worthwhile Impressionist and Surrealist art. There is also crap. But that's how it goes.

11 posted on 12/28/2017 9:53:47 AM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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“Can you believe these effing lunatics?”

"Believe it? I sculpted it!"

12 posted on 12/28/2017 9:57:46 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: GCFADG

Impressionism was invented for people with bad eyesight..............


13 posted on 12/28/2017 9:58:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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Art isn’t always about beauty and truth is often ugly.

How does one find art in ugliness? It doesn't take any kind of talent to create chaos or horror. I suppose one could see beauty in just about anything (Nancy Pelosi is married, after all). But that defeats the argument that the subject is "ugly."

And if, as Shelly says, Truth is Beauty and Beauty Truth, then even the "ugly" Truth is beautiful, in its own way.

It may be torturing the logic (or at least the semantics) but I'm convinced that for it to be art, it has to have some element of Beauty.

14 posted on 12/28/2017 10:01:31 AM PST by IronJack (A)
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To: Kaslin

Modern F’art


15 posted on 12/28/2017 10:02:26 AM PST by Pietro
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To: GCFADG

If it looks like something my cat could have produced...


16 posted on 12/28/2017 10:04:08 AM PST by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: mewzilla
Your cat must be a hell of a painter


17 posted on 12/28/2017 10:13:03 AM PST by GCFADG (Pardon me.)
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Mostly yes. Monet really wasn’t very talented, or maybe he had astigmatism. And that Dali made Christ on the cross look like the opening scene from Star Wars.


18 posted on 12/28/2017 10:55:06 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ... we.)
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“the sad and miserable excrescences known as modern art.”

Oh, I like this writer. Want to buy him a beer (but no “lite.”)


19 posted on 12/28/2017 11:00:51 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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“Gack.”

That’s the word I was searching for. Thanks.


20 posted on 12/28/2017 11:04:30 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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