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Airbus ready to phase out A380 if fails to win Emirates deal: sources
Reuters ^ | 27 Dec 2017 | Tim Hepher

Posted on 12/27/2017 7:12:25 AM PST by mandaladon

PARIS (Reuters) - Airbus is drawing up contingency plans to phase out production of the world’s largest jetliner, the A380 superjumbo, if it fails to win a key order from Dubai’s Emirates, three people familiar with the matter said.

The moment of truth for the slow-selling airliner looms after just 10 years in service and leaves one of Europe’s most visible international symbols hanging by a thread, despite a major airline investment in new cabins unveiled this month.

“If there is no Emirates deal, Airbus will start the process of ending A380 production,” a person briefed on the plans said. A supplier added such a move was logical due to weak demand.

Airbus and Emirates declined to comment. Airbus also declined to say how many people work on the project.

Any shutdown is expected to be gradual, allowing Airbus to produce orders it has in hand, mainly from Emirates.

It has enough orders to last until early next decade at current production rates, according to a Reuters analysis.

The A380 was developed at a cost of 11 billion euros to carry some 500 people and challenge the reign of the Boeing 747.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 787; a380; airbus; boeing; boeing747; dubai; trump; unitedarabemirates
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But demand for these four-engined goliaths has fallen as airlines choose smaller twin-engined models, which are easier to fill and cheaper to maintain.~~~~~~~~~~~No surprise here...
1 posted on 12/27/2017 7:12:25 AM PST by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon
Funny they mention the 747, which has been all but retired, but no mention of the 787 Dreamliner. Hm.
2 posted on 12/27/2017 7:16:10 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: mandaladon

The 380 does not handle turbulence well.


3 posted on 12/27/2017 7:18:47 AM PST by libh8er
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To: mandaladon

4 posted on 12/27/2017 7:18:54 AM PST by blam
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To: hinckley buzzard

Is the 787 a 2-engine plane?


5 posted on 12/27/2017 7:19:03 AM PST by libertylover (Kurt Schlicter: "They wonder why they got Trump. They are why they got Trump")
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To: libertylover

Yes. There is really no need for a 4 engine passenger plane.


6 posted on 12/27/2017 7:19:39 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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What if one of the 2 engines fail? Can it fly sideways?


7 posted on 12/27/2017 7:20:39 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: mandaladon

I was ready to phase it out when they announced the design size.


8 posted on 12/27/2017 7:21:05 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: mandaladon

Airbus claimed it would need to produce 270 planes to break even. A total of 216 planes have been delivered with with around a 100 planes ordered but not delivered. If this is the end Airbus only produced half the expected demand.


9 posted on 12/27/2017 7:21:32 AM PST by C19fan
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To: hinckley buzzard

Airbus made a bad bet on the traditional hub and spoke model. Boeing thought point to point routes would increase in importance and they were right. The A380 is economical on longer routes when it’s full and passengers seem to like it. Airlines even charge a premium, but it’s a limited market that’s probably reached saturation.

Airbus does have the A350 to compete with the 787, though.


10 posted on 12/27/2017 7:22:26 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: mandaladon

Its real competitor is Airbus’s own A350, which is a big hit due to its ultra-long range and low cost of operation. The A350 and 787 are the preferred long-haul jets of the future, and the 777 is on top now. The A380 and 747-8 are symbols of a bygone era.


11 posted on 12/27/2017 7:24:06 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They can fly on only one engine.


12 posted on 12/27/2017 7:24:26 AM PST by Tea Party Terrorist (Why work for a living when you can vote for a living?)
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To: blam

Disaster magnet?


13 posted on 12/27/2017 7:26:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Boeing analyzed the business viability of the SST back in the 60s, and decided to take a pass. The Europeans charged ahead with Concorde and operated it at a loss for decades, in order to secure bragging rights.

It was ok though because they had access to European taxpayer money.

Boeing also analyzed the long term prospects for a super jumbo, and didn’t like what it found. They decided to bet the farm on an ultra fuel efficient wide body made out of plastic.

That was the right decision too, looks like.

To me, the 380 just looks like a too-tempting target for terrorism.


14 posted on 12/27/2017 7:26:11 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: libh8er

The 380 wings are oversized for its size because they expected to build a larger variant without having to redesign the wings. As a result they pick up more turbulence and their gust suppression technology isn’t as good as the 787’s imo. Flying back from Japan during winter, the experience was horrible. Did it twice and each time it was terrifying.


15 posted on 12/27/2017 7:26:56 AM PST by libh8er
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It doesn’t handle muslim pilots well either.


16 posted on 12/27/2017 7:30:00 AM PST by Rebelbase (The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.-- H.L. Mencken)
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To: C19fan

I didn’t realize that there were 219 of those boondoggles delivered. Interesting.


17 posted on 12/27/2017 7:31:50 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: libertylover; Tea Party Terrorist
4 engines:


18 posted on 12/27/2017 7:36:27 AM PST by Enchante (FusionGPS "dirty dossier" scandal links Hillary, FBI, CIA, Dept of Justice... "Deep State" is real)
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To: C19fan

The real breakeven was probably closer to 315-335, and would never be achieved.

And as soon as one crashes......


19 posted on 12/27/2017 7:45:42 AM PST by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: mandaladon

The “Mighty Boeing Killer” is on it’s deathbed. This is what happens when you make business decisions based on penis envy. Boeing wisely decided to get out of the mega plane market and focus on high-efficiency planes that could fill the demand of a world moving quickly towards point-to-point connections instead of routing everyone through major airport hubs and connecting flights.

People hate connecting flights, especially international connecting flights, due the hassle of security and everything else that goes with airplane travel.


20 posted on 12/27/2017 7:48:51 AM PST by WMarshal (John McCain is the turd in America's punch bowl. McLame cannot even fake an injury.)
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