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To: GonzoII

From reading elsewhere, it seems the government is giving permits to sell to Ukraine. It’s not out of our budget or stockpiles.


2 posted on 12/23/2017 11:02:20 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

The way Trump would do it.


4 posted on 12/23/2017 11:05:23 AM PST by GonzoII ("If the new crime be, to believe in God, let us all be criminals" -Sheen)
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To: Sacajaweau; GonzoII

Already a thread on this topic from a few hours ago.

Putinists demand that we stay out of Russia’s so called sphere of influence, which is the result of what years of Bush and Obama and giving up on Western Europe have done to us.

You have allowed two-faced Vladdy Poots to fill the leadership vacuum and now see the world through his lenses.

Supporting Putin’s worldview means supporting the revival of the Russian and Soviet Empire power paradigms alongside some hefty Islamic allies like Turkey, Iran, and Syria to have their way in their “sphere” — at the compromise of freedom-seeking Eastern European countries and not to mention the integrity of Israel. All while figuring every which way to destabilize democratic Christian Western societies in the process especially the U.S.

Do you know how much pathetic bullying from Russia that countries like Poland and Ukraine have faced in choosing to do things like tear down their Lenin statues and ugly Soviet war monuments? The tearing down of Lenin statues, renaming of Soviet oppressor streets, and neighborhoods have only taken place in thr past two-three years in Ukraine! Putin’s Russia wants to switch back the clock.

Its not in the interests of OUR sphere to have Putin forcing his way on the Ukraine and his way in the Middle East. Spare me the false banner of Christian Orthodoxy he claims to wave by doing so. Lovely he builds churches in Syria next to Russian army bases.

Puh leeze. Putin operates under the same sickle and hammer Soviet flag, the same Soviet anthem, and his government remains the direct inheritor of the Bolshevik terrorists. He is still KGB and has no other frames of reference under which to operate his leadership. (Well he does admire some repressive tsars.)

The Crimea annexation and Ukrainian conflict has caused so much damage in terms of relations between Orthodox faithful in Ukraine and Russia, and not to mention Ukrainian Catholics and Protestants who want their country to be in line with the Western Christian sphere.

Hence as of this year, Ukraine celebrates BOTH Christmases as official holidays. Western on Dec. 25th and Eastern on Jan 7th. Its their right to be a spiritual bridge between East and West and not strangled to some sick Neo-Soviet, Neo-Imperial anti-Western delusion of Vladimir Putin’s.


5 posted on 12/23/2017 11:16:48 AM PST by GoldenState_Rose
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