IMPACHE 45!
More winning.
Good catch. It works both ways too. A marker that can be called in....
Too bad our “intelligence” services discounted or ignored Russia’s warnings about the Boston Marathon bombers........
That "questioning" by the FSB thing doesn't sound like a lot of fun.
SEE!!! RUSSIAN COLLUSION!!!!
The media now has the hardest time deciding who is the next Hitler of the Month...
The return of Détente?
Yesterday’s thread was full of the usual Putin lover attacks, etc., questioning whether or not he was a Christian ... the usual useless BS that clogs a thread.
CHRISTIAN LIVES WERE SAVED, ISN’T THAT ENOUGH TO GIVE THANKS?
Former US Ambassador slams Trump phone call
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/shocking-former-us-ambassador-to-russia-slams-trumps-call-with-putin/vp-BBGOMd2
Probably something like....Is Trump colluding even now while he is being investigated for collusion?
Countdown to the blithering s**theads calling this out as proof that Trump is in bed with Putin.
IMPACHE 45!
I, for one, am glad to see SOME degree of cooperation between us and the Russians.
Before commenting further, anyone reading this has to know my background. My paternal grandfather was born in the southern Ukraine. Being Jewish, he and his family suffered a fair amount from anti-Semitism. Nonetheless, my great grandfather continued a water delivery business that his father had started, and expanded it considerably - at one point, he employed 50 or so people. He took excess money from that business and built 14 houses over time, renting them to families who needed housing. Then came the Revolution, and the Communists took everything from him, even forcing my great grandparents to take on 3 families in their own home. About 15 years later, my broke and largely broken great grandfather was deemed to be such a great threat to Stalin’s rule that he was dragged into an NKVD prison, and beaten so badly that he died shortly after being released (just like Otto Warmbier and his North Korean experience). Meanwhile the rest of the family, except my grandfather and one of his brothers, was stuck in the giant open-air prison called the Soviet Union for the duration.
So I have PLENTY of reason to absolutely DESPISE Russian and Communism. Nonetheless, I think that in looking at the interests of this country before my own biases, I can see very great potential rewards for merely talking about those interests that we and the Russians (no longer Communist) have (such as Islamic terrorism and the preservation of Western Civilization). To the extent that we can cooperate and build trust over time (and I’m under no illusions that it will be easy or fast - there’s a lot of water under the bridge), this allows for MORE cooperation and trust later. Perhaps, in a generation or so, we may even be allies - not allies of convenience, like during WW2 when Germany was a far greater and more immediate threat to both of us, than we were to each other. At the least, we’ll get to know each other better, understand each other better and thus be able to reduce tensions between us (always worthwhile when we have thousands of nukes on each side).
But we’ll never know unless we try with baby steps first - and this is what I believe that Trump is trying to do. I know that under Hillary, this wouldn’t have been possible, that tensions would have ratcheted upwards, which would have helped no one except defense contractors and the intelligence community (and, frankly, there’s enough else to keep them both plenty busy, considering China, Iran and the whole Arab terrorism thing).
Bravo to Trump and our intelligence services on this one. They’ve created a bunch of good will, and I expect that there will be more forthcoming from us, and a fair amount coming from the Russians. While I would be VERY careful with them, I think that it will lead to much better things over time.
Poor Yevgeny - no Club Gitmo shirt for you!
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(he'd probably want one, given how he'll be treated by the FSB)
It was a routine exchange under Bush.
cause that's what real men do?Imagine how much progress we could have made with Russian cooperation had this false Collusion Narrative hadn’t taken hold?
The Democrats AKA Hillary, have done their best to start a new Cold War, no doubt about it.
This is YUGE amounts of winning. Having a competitor and potential enemy indebted to you for having saved the lives of his countrymen? Well played, Mr. Trump.