Posted on 12/17/2017 1:12:09 PM PST by Magnatron
Officials of President Trump's transition team plan to ask Special Counsel Robert Mueller to return "many tens of thousands" of transition emails they contend were unlawfully provided to him. But the prosecutor's office says emails being used in the investigation were properly obtained.
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What a joke. That is absurd to return them now. This is the typical weakness manifest on our side now.
“ongoing criminal investigation, “
Criminal? I thought it was about intelligence breaches.
This whole charade needs to come to an end, one way or another.
5.56mm
If anybody thinks the 4th Amendment means anything to these assholes, think again. They believe they are above the law. Same mentality as the IRS.
The technology available for manufacturing, let's just say, birth certificates, is the same which might be demonstrative of legal documentation of judicial prerogative in subpoenas of emails.
The head of GSA at the time promised to protect the documents. Meuller swooped in when that person was hospitalized and no one was in charge. He knew he couldn’t get the documents any other way.
Was it Roth who was hospitalized? There's always someone placed in charge if the Director is incapacitated. Somebody was in charge. They just decided not to do their job.
That is dated today. Was it the result or the reason for the Axios article?
I recall Trump saying that he never uses email because anyone that uses it will someday get into trouble...or something like that.
The DNC hasn’t had a chance to go over all of them looking for things they can use during the elections.
I also wonder if AG Sessions were gone, would that disenhearten Steve Miller? One can't help but suspect he has a lot to do with the very excellent speeches that include an historical perspective.
Here is what is stated. Someone completely different.
In order to comply with congressional document production requests, TFA ordered from the GSA electronic copies of all PTT emails and other data. Career GSA staff initially expressed concern that providing copies of PTT emails to TFA might violate a document preservation request that the GSA had received from the Special Counsel’s Office. This issue was resolved decisively on June 15, 2017 after a series of emails and telephone calls between TFA’s legal counsel and Richard Beckler and Lenny Loewentritt, the newly appointed General Counsel for the GSA and the career Deputy General Counsel for the GSA, respectively. After discussion and consideration of the issue, Mr. Beckler acknowledged unequivocally to TFA’s legal counsel, in the presence of Mr. Loewentritt, that TFA owned and controlled the PTT emails and data pursuant to the Presidential Transition Act, and that the GSA had no right to access or control the records but was simply serving as TFA’s records custodian.
Mr. Beckler assured legal counsel for TFA, again in the presence of Mr. Loewentritt, that any requests for the production of PTT Letter to Congressional Committees December 16, 2017 records would therefore be routed to legal counsel for TFA. In the meantime, Mr. Beckler agreed to maintain all computer equipment in a secure, locked space within GSA facilities. There are multiple surviving witnesses to this conversation, including me. Additionally, we understand that the following day, June 16, 2017, Mr. Beckler personally informed the Special Counsel’s Office that PTT records are not owned or controlled by the GSA, and that the Special Counsel’s Office should communicate with TFA if it desired to obtain PTT records. It is our understanding that Mr. Beckler was hospitalized and incapacitated in August 2017.
Notwithstanding Mr. Beckler’s June 16, 2017 instruction to the Special Counsel’s Office concerning the ownership and control of PTT records, the Special Counsel’s Office, through the Federal Bureau of Investigation (“FBI”), sent to the GSA two requests for the production of PTT materials while Mr. Beckler was hospitalized and unable to supervise legal matters for the GSA. Specifically, on August 23, 2017, the FBI sent a letter (i.e., not a subpoena) to career GSA staff requesting copies of the emails, laptops, cell phones, and other materials associated with nine PTT members responsible for national security and policy matters. On August 30, 2017, the FBI sent a letter (again, not a subpoena) to career GSA staff requesting such materials for four additional senior PTT members.
Officials of President Trump’s transition team plan to ask Special Counsel Robert Mueller to return “many tens of thousands” of transition emails they contend were unlawfully provided to him. But the prosecutor’s office says emails being used in the investigation were properly obtained.
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So who is the prosecutor’s office? This is Federal. The prosecuting authority would be the DOJ/AG.Why would they make this asinine comment?The writer of this article needs to clarify who made this statement. Seems to me it is “made up”.
Trey Gowdy is betraying us again.
A spokeswoman for House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy, of South Carolina, said in a statement that the Trump transition email issues are “to be briefed by the parties (or others with cognizable legal claims and standing) and decided by the court — not Congress.”
Not only were the records ilegally taken, the request for direct GSA delivery was properly turned down by GSA director.
The FBI, under the direction of Deputy Director Rodney Rosenstein, made an illegal and unethical end run around proper procedures and oversight while the director was hospitalized to induce the his acting replacement (who was fully aware of the illegality and impropriety of the request) to illegally transfer the records to the Special Prosecutor without informing the owners of the records, the TFA, of the events.
Furthermore, the GSA did not simply supply electronic copies of the emails, they supplied the computers and data storage devices that the emails were stored on.
Given the nature of the request, it is almost certain that the GSA delivered the data and devices to the FBI, who then provided them to Mueller's team after the GSA properly refused Mueller's requests
This is a real problem on a lot of different levels.
At the very least, Rod Rosenstein needs to be fired and disciplined for misconduct
And of course, Beckler’s now dead.
Swamp-man Mueller has had these emails since July. If there was anything there, it would have been actioned (or leaked) by now.
If Swamp-man Mueller had anything solid, he wouldn’t be pushing the legal envelope to obtain material he is not entitled too. eg. if your evidence is solid you don’t risk having your search warrant thrown out by exceeding the limits of the warrant.
This is going to end up in court, and if Swamp-man Mueller loses there will be a legal judgement against his gang for illegally obtaining material he was not entitled to. More public discredit of the “integrity” of Swamp-man-Mueller’s “investigation”, and more support to fire him.
There is nothing there anyway because: 1) Trump/Russia was bogus from the start; 2) does anyone really think that if there was Trump/Russia collusion they would put it in a transition email - especially after all the fuss about Russia after the election ?
Let’s just play it out.
Trump will drip on their head until their chickens are home.
Everybody knows it.
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