Posted on 12/16/2017 7:47:45 PM PST by JP1201
The jurors who acquitted Philip Brailsford of second-degree murder last week were told to judge him based on “how a reasonable officer would act, versus a regular person with no police training,” as The Arizona Republic put it.
That distinction was crucial, because a “regular person” would never get away with shooting an unarmed man who was crawling on the floor, sobbing and begging for his life.
Like other recent cases in which jurors failed to hold police officers accountable for the unnecessary use of deadly force, Brailsford’s acquittal shows that cops benefit from a double standard. Unlike ordinary citizens, they can kill with impunity as long as they say they were afraid, whether or not their fear was justified.
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“If they have broken into your house and are acting like they have a weapon, damn right you can fire on them.”
You can fire on them for breaking into your home, weapon or no weapon. That’s not what this situation was.
-PJ
They had the male completely immobile at one point . His face was buried in the carpet,fingers interlaced behind his head and legs crossed. It was a perfect time to take him into custody yet they inexplicably decided to make him do the Macarena perfectly under pain of death. Judging from the video I would say Daniel Shaver was killed because of police incompetence .
The jurors who acquitted Philip Brailsford of second-degree murder last week were told to judge him based on “how a reasonable officer would act, versus a regular person with no police training,” as The Arizona Republic put it.
[[It was a perfect time to take him into custody]]
The reason it wasn’t the perfect time- as outlined by police officers who reviewed the case and gave their opinions in other forums— The police were responding to a report of a man pointing a gun out the window (something people seem to forget or dismiss as unimportant)- they had no way of knowing if other people were in the room (which was behind and to the left of the man) who may also have had guns- that is why they were making the man crawl to where they could more securely deal with the situation, and hwy they had the girl crawl too- There was also a door to the man’s right
The police asked several times if anyone else was in the rooms (which they oculdn’t see)- so this indicated that hey were infact worried about possible ‘other threats’ that were out of view-
That is all you need to know about this.
He was pulling his shorts up because they were coming down trying to follow the ridiculous "simon the grim reaper says".
Nice job sticking up for a murder.
(methinks Princess is in hiding, from this one)
“This is a dangerous game the police and the judicial system is playing.”
Yes, especially when one considers the ROE are military, until recently, was forced to operate under.
Seems the mod is a little touchy...
But, you could have done worse. You could have called him a TG.
They had at least two officers there. The door to their room could have been covered while Shaver was cuffed and taken into custody. The police, at least according to the video needlessly escalated the situation. I’m also unaware how one crawls with their hands in the air and their legs crossed. You can’t expect a suspect to perfectly follow nonsensical commands especially under the duress of being killed for making a mistake.
[[They had at least two officers there. The door to their room could have been covered while Shaver was cuffed and taken into custody.]]
The point was not to cuff them in as stressful/dangerous a position- that is why they had them crawl away from the area- There were two doors there- one to the fellas left and behind him and one to the immediate right-
We’re all sitting here after the fact- saying they ‘could have’ but when in situations like that- it’s a potentially very dangerous situation, bot just for the police, but for everyone- the girl, the man- whoever ‘might have been’ in the rooms- etc- It would have been nice to be able to know for sure noone was in the rooms, but they couldn’t know for sure
[[I’m also unaware how one crawls with their hands in the air and their legs crossed.]]
He wasn’t required to crawl like that (However, As I stated in another thread on this issue- I was fully able to crawl with hands in air and legs crossed- it’s not impossible or even that hard-) - The police allowed him to uncross his legs and drop his hands to the ground and crawl- it wasn’t until after the fella reached for his back that he was screamed at and told not to do that again- They were allowing for some mistakes but reaching for waistband was a huge no no- As mentioned- it was a ‘man with gun’ call, and it could have been very likely that such a person also had a pistol-
The commands weren’t nonsensical- He was told very very clearly not to reach to his waistband again- after he did so the first time- The police were allowing him to crawl, on hands and knees- legs uncrossed- towards them- and everything very likely would have been fine IF the fella had not disobeyed the one order not to reach for his waistband
There were doors all over the place. To the left, to the right, in front, behind. Doors are everywhere in a hotel. The logical solution would have been for the cops to cover the door shaver came out of and hand cuff him. The commands the cops gave were definitely nonsensical. No reasonable person would believe a cop telling them to crawl would assume they have to do it with their hands in the air and their legs crossed. That is not a normal assumption and without explicit instructions that won’t happen. Regardless of what anyone’s opinion is a Police Officer killed an unarmed and innocent person. In this instance the police became a threat to society.
Why is it that a suspect is required to do everything perfectly lest they be killed yet the police may shoot an innocent person on the slightest fault?
Clearly law enforcement today is held to a far lower standard of conduct than any other citizen.
I agree
Duly noted, you’ve publicly decided to support a government murderer...
The idea a cops life is more valuable than anyone else’s life is absolutely absurd and just stupid.
And that’s exactly what you are trying to articulate with you’re videos of cops being shot etc...
All life is valuable and if, as a cop you can’t understand this then you don’t need to be a cop.
This guy is a murder and a coward, there’s a special place in hell for him and those who think like he does.
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