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NYT: Obama Only Lied 18 Times in 8 Years; Trump Off the Charts
Truth Revolt ^ | December 14, 2017

Posted on 12/15/2017 5:15:30 AM PST by grundle

NYT: Obama Only Lied 18 Times in 8 Years; Trump Off the Charts

Quick, somebody do a chart on NYT’s lies.

12.14.2017

News

Trey Sanchez

  

The New York Times, which promised to do a better job at unbiased reporting after the election, actually reported with a straight face that President Obama only lied 18 times in his entire presidency. Take a second to recover from laughter (or outrage).

David Leonhardt, Ian Prasad Philbrick, and Stuart A. Thompson considered it a challenge when they heard from Trump supporters who after reading the NYT's list of lies of President Trump said: “Yes, but if you made a similar list for previous presidents, it would be just as bad.”

“We’ve set out to make that list,” the authors stated. “Here, you will find our attempt at a comprehensive catalog of the falsehoods that Barack Obama told while he was president.”

The NYT writers promised they “applied the same conservative standard to Obama and Trump, counting only demonstrably and substantially false statements.”

Their result: Obama, 18 lies in 8 years, while Trump told 103 in just 10 months! Don’t believe them? Just check out that handy colorful chart above. You'll see.

In his first 10 months in office, he has told 103 separate untruths, many of them repeatedly. Obama told 18 over his entire eight-year tenure. That’s an average of about two a year for Obama and about 124 a year for Trump.

The writers inform us that Trump’s lies were only counted once, and not the ones he repeated:

If we had used a less strict standard, Trump would look even worse by comparison. He makes misleading statements and mild exaggerations – about economic statistics, his political opponents and many other subjects – far more often than Obama. We left out any statement that could be plausibly defended even if many people would disagree with the president's interpretation. We also left out modest quantitative errors, such as Trump's frequent imprecision with numbers.

The article even went back to George W. Bush, although fact-checkers weren’t as busy with him as they were with Obama and now Trump. In its conclusion, “Trump is different” in that he continues to tell a lie even after proven otherwise. 

“When [Obama and Bush] became aware that they had been saying something untrue, they stopped doing it,” the writers claimed. For example, Obama never repeated the “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” line and Bush “changed the way he spoke about Iraq’s weapons capabilities.”

The writers further protected Obama:

As for Obama: His falsehoods tended to be attempts to make his own policies look better or to overstate a problem he was trying to solve. In a few cases, they seemed to be careless exaggerations he avoided repeating.

Over all, Obama rarely told demonstrable untruths as president. And he appears to have become more careful over time. We counted six straight-up falsehoods in his first year in office. Across his entire second four-year term, we counted the same number, six, only one of which came in his final year in office.

In all, we found 18 different bald untruths from Obama during his presidency. 

But Trump…

Trump is trying to make truth irrelevant. It is extremely damaging to democracy, and it’s not an accident. It’s core to his political strategy.

In fact, Trump tells falsehoods about Obama and his administration more often than Obama told falsehoods about all subjects.

So, when the “professionals” can’t seem to — or better, don’t want to — mine for the lies that passed the nicotine-stained lips of Barack Obama, the little guy does it. Here’s a site considered “well sourced” of 1,366 examples of Obama’s lies while president.

Meanwhile, the NYT could only find 18?!? Weird for an unbiased news source who swears it’s trying to move outside the bubble and see how the rest of America views Washington.

Perhaps the Times should have checked out Jack Cashill’s book of Obama lies, You Lie. Obama’s lies were about issues of war and peace, such as his comment that ISIS was a mere JV team, or that al-Qaeda was on the run, while almost all of Trump’s “lies” are either simple exaggerations or carelessly assembled facts and only qualify as lies in the demented minds of Trump haters.


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KEYWORDS: davidleonhardt; mediabias; newyork; newyorkcity; newyorkslimes
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To: grundle
.....and the NYT has lied about the Trump Administration, how many times?

The NYT and all MSM has lied how many times about Trump, Clinton and Obama???

41 posted on 12/15/2017 6:54:10 AM PST by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: grundle
NYT: Obama Only Lied 18 Times in 8 Years; Trump Off the Charts

If you even thought that there was a chance, however slight, that "The [FAILING] New York Times" could possibly be reporting actual, unbiased news, a story like this blows that theory to hell and back.

I put MUCH more faith in "The National Enquirer" than "The [FAILING] New York Times".

42 posted on 12/15/2017 7:07:51 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Uranium One = BRIBERY and TREASON - HANG THEM ALL!!!!)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Technically true, but deliberately misleading. The famine was in the Soviet Union, but not Russia. In Ukraine and other nations millions were starved. The NYT is deceitful.


43 posted on 12/15/2017 7:09:39 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: grundle

The NYT is openly as fake as the Onion. Consider it humor.


44 posted on 12/15/2017 7:13:04 AM PST by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: grundle

To be fair, Mesiah Obama said that with his presidency “the rise of the oceans began to slow” and it was true. Irony is the greentards don’t believe their Mesiah and continue to cry climate armageddon.


45 posted on 12/15/2017 7:13:16 AM PST by miniTAX (n)
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To: grundle

He lied about his BC for 2920 days.


46 posted on 12/15/2017 7:20:18 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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Wait, he said “if you like your doctor” over 27 times. Does that count as one lie if it’s repeated?


47 posted on 12/15/2017 7:33:29 AM PST by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: proust

Also
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jayson_Blair


48 posted on 12/15/2017 7:34:40 AM PST by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: grundle

The New York Times lies to get whatever it wants so how can it pose itself as impartial enough to make this comparison and be believed?


49 posted on 12/15/2017 11:19:50 AM PST by ransomnote
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To: grundle

IIRC, 0bama said “you can keep your plan, “ “you can keep your doctor, “ “and your plan’s premium will decrease $2500 per year.”

Times twenty seven times.

Oh, it’s the nyt. Never mind .

5.56mm


50 posted on 12/15/2017 11:24:45 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: grundle

What lies? Anyone have a list?


51 posted on 12/15/2017 12:03:20 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: grundle

I can’t think of a single lie by Trump. He abuses the superlative, but that’s not a lie, which the Slimes is obviously counting.

As for Obama, I can name, without looking or hesitation, at least 20 things he lied about: keep your doctor, economy, cash-for-clunkers, stimulus, Syria, Egypt, China, Iraq, Afghanistan, Michael Brown, his son Trayvon, Boston cop, Fast & Furious, every time he mentioned a Republican, calling out veterans on Memorial Day, misreading the teleprompter, Benghazi, AQ, ISIS, Bin Laden raid, not sleeping with Reggie Love, being married to a woman...

That’s 20+ just off the top of my head. What a scumbag.

And I’m honestly trying but cannot think of a single Trump lie.


52 posted on 12/15/2017 2:37:55 PM PST by nicollo (I said no!)
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