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If He's Lost Fox Viewers
Townhall.com ^ | Dec 15, 2017 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 12/14/2017 9:49:30 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom

The most important poll number to come out this week had nothing to do with defeated Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore. It had to do with Fox News and Donald Trump. We'll get to the numbers in a minute.

First: some disclosure. I'm a Fox contributor and a Trump skeptic (aka a former "Never Trumper"). That makes this an awkward column to write, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

Regardless, I don't think I am revealing any state or corporate secrets that Fox is the president's favorite news network. He says as much all the time. According to CBS' Mark Knoller, as of last October, President Trump gave more than three times as many interviews (18) to Fox and Fox Business as he has to NBC, ABC and CBS combined (5). He's given two to religious networks and zero to CNN.

Some Fox defenders would say this is understandable because the other networks are so hostile toward the president. They certainly have a point.

Fox critics would say that Trump favors Fox because the network is exceedingly friendly to the president. Some even call it Trump's "state TV."

The critics have a point, too, though an important distinction needs to be made.

Most of the president's interviews haven't been with the news side -- which I think usually does a very good job of covering the news honestly and fairly -- but with the opinion side. Sean Hannity, probably Trump's favorite host and, reportedly, an informal Trump adviser, explained in April 2016, "If I'm interviewing Hillary Clinton, it's gonna be a hundred times harder than any Republican, because I believe the Republicans ... have a far better vision, one that I agree with ... I'm not a journalist, I'm a talk show host." (Hannity recently revised this, telling the New York Times he's an "advocacy journalist").

Many other cable hosts pretend that they are dispassionate journalists when any reasonable viewer can see that they are ideological and political partisans. MSNBC host Rachel Maddow touts her show as covering the news "without fear or favor." I don't know about the fear part, but any remotely objective viewer would see an awful lot of favor -- to Democrats, liberals, Trump critics, etc.

Still, the same objective viewer simply must concede that Fox, particularly "Fox and Friends" (which Trump watches to the point where many in Washington now call the program the "president's daily briefing") and the primetime line-up -- with Hannity at the forefront -- is objectively and intensely pro-Trump.

The news side is a different animal (which is probably why President Trump won't sit down with news anchors Bret Baier or Chris Wallace). But even here it's fair to say Fox doesn't follow the path forged by other news organizations, which often appear so determined to hurt Trump that they fall for bogus stories which my National Review colleague Rich Lowry calls, "too anti-Trump to check." Whether that makes them biased toward Trump is ultimately in the eye of the beholder. That Hannity & Co. bend over backward to cast Trump in as favorable a light as possible really isn't up for debate.

But there's a difference between favorable and helpful. Much of the opinion stuff essentially involves mirroring Trump's Twitter feed, attacking Trump critics and railing about the "rigged system," "fake news" and the "deep state." It's so much muchness, as the British say.

The focus on the reality show drama and cult-of-personality stuff is distracting from the more straightforward, if more boring, case for the White House. That may not be evident in the ratings, but it is in the polls. Trump has been hemorrhaging support among key demographics for months, despite a much improving economy, victory over ISIS and mostly excellent judicial appointments.

Which brings me to those poll numbers. Suffolk University and USA Today released a poll this week which found that among people who trust Fox News the most, the president's approval rating has been sinking. His favorability among Fox devotees in June was 90 percent. In October, it was 74 percent. This week? Fifty-eight percent. If that trend continues, he will be underwater with the Fox audience long before the 2018 midterms.

You can cry "fake polls," as Trump often does. But was the same poll fake in June? Or are the same trends that led to Trump's historically abysmal approval ratings now reaching even the Fox faithful?

From Virginia to Oklahoma to Alabama, establishment and anti-establishment GOP candidates alike have lost in large part because Democrats, Independents and a significant number of Republicans disapprove of Trump more than they approve of him. His pander-to-the-base approach still does wonders for Hannity & Co.'s ratings, but ratings aren't votes.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama
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A former NeverTrumper? Is this a comedy skit?
1 posted on 12/14/2017 9:49:30 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Jonah...your point is lost on me......lots of words....but nothing more than lots of words


2 posted on 12/14/2017 9:52:38 PM PST by Be Careful
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

FOX has lost Trump viewers.


3 posted on 12/14/2017 9:52:43 PM PST by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Yes it is.


4 posted on 12/14/2017 9:54:42 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

I’m sorry. Jonah who?


5 posted on 12/14/2017 9:54:52 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

(((Goldberg)))


6 posted on 12/14/2017 9:55:37 PM PST by ebshumidors
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To: fortheDeclaration
Precisely
7 posted on 12/14/2017 9:55:41 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Jonah Goldturd trying to convince us he’s still smart even thought he’s been wrong about everything so far.


8 posted on 12/14/2017 9:55:43 PM PST by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: fortheDeclaration

They lost me a few decades ago with O’Blowhard trashing the Swift Boat Vets, etc.


9 posted on 12/14/2017 9:56:36 PM PST by doorgunner69 (No video seems to happen a lot when they shoot somebody..........)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Political Journalists Have Themselves to Blame for Sinking Credibility
Townhall.com | December 15, 2015 | David Harsayi
Posted on 12/14/2017 9:33:59 PM PST by Kaslin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3613773/posts


10 posted on 12/14/2017 9:59:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: fortheDeclaration
FOX has lost Trump viewers.

Exactly correct and for damn good reasons.

11 posted on 12/14/2017 10:00:04 PM PST by Bullish (Whatever it takes to MAGA)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Jonah, I’ve gotten over being disappointed in you (not,)......and then I read junk like this!
Grow up!...and make your mother proud!


12 posted on 12/14/2017 10:04:20 PM PST by Guenevere
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

There is a danger... the news media noticed a number of months ago that complaining about Trump’s policy decisions was helping him. It was showing how effective he was being. They have since stopped talking about those and harped on the do-nothing Congress as an extension of Trump not accomplishing anything.

This is dangerous. Many people held their nose for the “blow-hard” because they understood and supported his policies. The politics of personal destruction don’t work on him because people voted knowing his negatives. His poll numbers were improving as he systematically fulfilled campaign promises. If the media is successful in showing Trump as a “blow-hard” AND ineffectual... that could spell trouble and may explain a downturn in the polls.

I’ve seen this tactic work too many times to dismiss it.


13 posted on 12/14/2017 10:07:26 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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Sorry Jonah. The last thing you ever did that I agreed with is when you wrote Liberal Fascism. You have been a dud ever since.

You should be rallying the troops, rather than dividing them.

I grew up with Goldwater and Reagan and deemed them as honorable men, you are not.

I read every WFB,Jr. book I could get my hands on when I was young. You and your ilk has destroyed National Review in my eyes.

Despite all my “conservative friends” advise, I voted for President Trump because it would prevent Hillary from getting her filthy hands on the judiciary. I am more than pleased at what President Trump has accomplished.

I wasn’t all in for President Trump at the beginning, yet he has accomplished more for the conservative cause since Reagan, if not more. Goldwater said that he didn’t come to pass new laws, but to eliminate them.

Trump is doing that. He is returning power back to the States, rather than isolating it in the Feds. Small government and States rights used to be clarion call of the Republican Party along with the 1st and 2nd Amendment.

I am a conservative, Jonah, you are not. Where did you go wrong?


14 posted on 12/14/2017 10:13:29 PM PST by bobo1 (Truth has but only one voice.)
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“I’m a Fox contributor and a Trump skeptic (aka a former “Never Trumper”).

Stopped reading there. I thought it was going to be a serious article.


15 posted on 12/14/2017 10:19:00 PM PST by proust (Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be taken at his word.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Who cares Judas?


16 posted on 12/14/2017 10:23:04 PM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
Detestable trout vomit. Goldberg, like a 12 year old public school Beyonce devotee, is
interested only in drama, likeability, polls.

Buckley the visionary found stimulation in ideas. I truly believe he would have applauded
Trump's bold moves to implement Conservative economic policies, to make the focus of
national policy the interests of the American populace.

Goldberg wrote an important book - Liberal Fascism. But his writings since then are in
some sense moribund.
17 posted on 12/14/2017 10:28:37 PM PST by jobim
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To: bobo1

Great rant. Thanks.


18 posted on 12/14/2017 10:52:19 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public education & academia= the farm team for more Marxists coming, infinitum.)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Jonah Goldberg...a loyal Bushie


19 posted on 12/14/2017 10:55:01 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
First: some disclosure. I'm a Fox contributor and a Trump skeptic (aka a former "Never Trumper"). That makes this an awkward column to write, for reasons that should be fairly obvious.

Jonah, No one is asking you to write an awkward column. So do yourself -- and the rest of us -- a favor, and just STFU!

20 posted on 12/14/2017 11:03:45 PM PST by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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