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To: DiogenesLamp
It was the accusations, which so many of our side simply accepted at face value

Hannity gave Moore his big chance to vociferously refute the scuttilous claims against him on national television, but according to most accounts, he botched it.

When Trump was faced with personal attacks from the same lying cabal, he roared back with real fire, and set them on their heels.

Roy couldn't manage to cough out a puff of smoke, and that is why so many voters bought into the lies.

31 posted on 12/12/2017 10:29:58 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: Windflier
Hannity gave Moore his big chance to vociferously refute the scuttilous claims against him on national television, but according to most accounts, he botched it.

He did botch it, but by the time Hannity had given him the forum, the premise had already been laid that dating teenage women was tantamount to admitting to molesting that girl. All the accusations were lumped together as a package, and if Moore admitted to any of it, people would see it as implicating him in the molestation accusation.

Hannity didn't help by focusing on trying to get Moore to deny he dated teenagers instead of denying that he molested that specific girl. The problem was, Moore did date teenagers, and by focusing on that Hannity was helping to paint Moore into a corner.

Moore botched it, but Hannity botched it too in the way he presented an acknowledgement of dating teenagers as convicting Moore of all the accusations.

When Trump was faced with personal attacks from the same lying cabal, he roared back with real fire, and set them on their heels.

Roy couldn't manage to cough out a puff of smoke, and that is why so many voters bought into the lies.

Moore should have said "Yes I dated Teenagers, but I never dated a 14 year old, and I never had any sort of intimate contact with that one girl."

Moore should have came out with strong denouncement of the one accusation, and an admission that he dated some women as teenagers.

But the bigger thing here is that people in our party should have at the very least kept their F***ing mouths shut until they had more information than mere accusations from women with troubled pasts. Too quickly did all of our team mates come out to withdraw their support and denounce Moore on the basis of nothing but Media collaborated accusations.

Jeff Flake even sent money to the Jones Campaign. The backstabbing from our own party was just unreal.

42 posted on 12/12/2017 10:41:59 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Windflier
I agree Wind.....in fact Roy came across to me unprepared...if he couldn't convince Hannity and the viewer he wasn't standing thereafter on solid ground. I tend to think he was likely a rascal 40 years ago....and there were a dime a dozen then. It was a different time when there wasn't a boogey-man behind every bush......so it was unfair to compare that time to today's 'stiff' climate where every act of affection is seen as a come on in one form or another......

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When are all these women politicians going to call a spade a spade and accuse Brigitte Macron for her teacher-pupil relationship, She was in her 40's and Emmanuel Macron was just 16......plus she was a married at the time. Oh but she's considered by them as a "Barricuda".....

Now 65...


55 posted on 12/12/2017 10:53:32 PM PST by caww (freeen)
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To: Windflier
Hannity gave Moore his big chance to vociferously refute the scuttilous claims against him on national television, but according to most accounts, he botched it.

Now wait a minute, the way the first Washington Post article was written, there was no way for Judge Moore to refute it. The article said he had an illegal relationship with a 14 year old and then included one or two young women of legal age that he actually dated a couple of times. When Hannity asked him to refute the article he could not give a one word answer.

Untold thousands of men have had a May-December relationship, and further back in time, untold multiple millions. My own wife of 43 years once was engaged to an older man when she was seventeen until she found out that he was a mama's boy that would never stand with her against his overbearing mother. My wife also had a girlfriend who married a father figure and was ruled by him with an iron hand. She buried him a few years ago.

The Judge is not guilty of any offense.

73 posted on 12/12/2017 11:21:41 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken)
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