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To: wardaddy

I told you when you were calling me a troll when I posted the poll a month ago that this didn’t look good. If Moore was innocent as he claimed, he should have fought, but he didn’t fight. He sparsely campaigned and often disappeared, refusing to debate Jones. Even if he was innocent and knew he was going to lose, it would be best to swallow pride and step aside for a sure fire candidate in my opinion.

That said, I think you are overblowing this. Another Republican would have won, so this isn’t about Trump or Republicans. Moore was rejected based on these allegations. Plus, because he was more controversial, the election likely would have been tighter than it would have been with a guy like Strange who would pick up more independent votes and wouldn’t full Democrat turnout so much.

Bottom line is, Trump will win Alabama in 2020 (if he doesn’t, no hope for the swing states), and he has a very good shot at bringing someone across the finish line with him as Republicans will turn out and will vote straight ticket for a guy like Brooks or Strange.


2,058 posted on 12/13/2017 3:34:01 AM PST by Pinkbell
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To: Pinkbell; Pelham; Bodleian_Girl

I disagree that is not the sequence of events

Moore was already rejected prior to these allegations by

The media

The GOPe

And the Dems of course

And he was already running against them

So a collusion of GOPe operatives funded by Mitch McConnell PAC etc worked from day one to stop firebrand Moore who they knew knew they couldn’t control

LaterWashPo working with both democrat and GOPe operatives line up these paid women to smear Moore

Only one of whom mattered to me and we later find out all sorts of discrepancies and omissions like her divorce trial and all these later issues she has though the media won’t mention that

Alll arranged by a dem law firm conveniently final hour and never substantiated it yet carried by the media including bitch hunt Fox repeatedly as credible ad nauseam

And it worked

Blacks came out heavy

Soccer moms in Vestavia and post grad voters in Huntsville and Florence flipped

And a lot of folks stayed home who voted in 2016

And younger white voters even in Alabama tend to be more liberal

Yes Luther a GOPe approved 1970s style Sam Nunn democrat would have probably won which is the essence of all this

It’s comparable to Mississippi except there the state GOP was more involved in total via the Barbour apparatI although former democrat Shelbys late hour defection hurt

I didn’t much care about the late teen accusations and found the 14 year old non credible

It’s like when Gillebrand first ran and her GOP opponent was smeared out by later found out totally unsubstantiated rumor which was a media dem plot

She’s senator now

This stuff works and if it works in Alabama it’ll work anywhere

That’s the scary part

Your solution is don’t risk the GOPe ire

We see over and over again the only thing they fight is rebellion in their own ranks

Never the opposition outside the party and they live for media approval

They orchestrated this yet will claim it as objective proof conservative Christians can’t win

Bad day

And all this women crap now will be turned on Trump

Don’t flirt and make men even more subservient

This is war and I’m in it to win not buckle for innuendo

Nobody Is safe from that....being a conservative man todaywill become like being an aristocrat in France 1790s sans the chopper

They are sacrificing their own now to gear up for the big prize....Moore is their first real quarry on our team


2,069 posted on 12/13/2017 6:42:27 AM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Pinkbell; All

I didn’t get the impression he thought he would lose. Was not campaigning hard from overconfidence?? Anyone know how many votes write-ins received?


2,080 posted on 12/13/2017 2:24:06 PM PST by gleeaikin
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