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To: snarkytart

A liberal senator just won in a state where Trump won by 28 percent in a campaign engineered by the democrats and GOPe and big media to take down a hard right Christian conservative in arguably the most conservative white voting electorate in the nation

They can do that with a POTUS candidate too with this playbook

They tried it with Trump and failed

I never thought I’d see white Alabamans vote for such a liberal

This is a big deal if not for that alone......southern electorate is turned on its head tonight

That’s my electorate and one I know well

It shows old southerners like me and the gen x and y southerners are diverged

And that sure doesn’t help conservatism

Were it a yellow dog it would be less shocking

I know you are not a culture warrior in particular but our fight for America is culture and demographics and Jones win is a major defeat for Trump agenda

It will help the GOPe check trump even more now

And so much at stake ...in just a year

I do agree that Jones likely won’t last but by then maybe Bredesen wins Tennessee and he is more centrist though still. Democrat

Bredesen is popular with the same soccer mom suburbans who went for Jones


2,019 posted on 12/12/2017 9:17:03 PM PST by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: wardaddy

I think we have to lower our expectations of the Trump presidency somewhat. He isn’t going to get much at all in long term change (beyond his presidency). We will not get a better immigration system through Congress, which is more come-one, come-all open borders now than it was before today. It was bad already but now the Swamp is deeper, darker and more entrenched than it was before.

We can make some gains still on economy...but even the GOPe went for tax cuts. That’s about the limit on what he can accomplish domestically. And I think we need to expect that. The culture issues, the climate change hoax and the immigration problems...and even the courts...will get no better looking forward than they are today.


2,030 posted on 12/12/2017 9:34:53 PM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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