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To: PJBankard

Blah, blah, blah.

Jesus had brothers. Real life brothers from his mother Mary. Who did not remain a virgin all her life.


41 posted on 12/05/2017 12:55:12 PM PST by Responsibility2nd
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To: Responsibility2nd
Jesus had brothers. Real life brothers from his mother Mary. Who did not remain a virgin all her life.

Yah, right! Do you have a family portrait to prove that? You do know that "brother" in the ancient Middle East could just mean any male relative, don't you? In Genesis 13:8, Abraham refers to his nephew, Lot, as his brother.

43 posted on 12/05/2017 1:05:51 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Responsibility2nd

There is nothing to indicate that definitively. The wide application of the word “brother” is ancient Hebrew aside, Joseph may have had children from a previous marriage. Considering all the possible explanations besides full blood siblings, combined with what has been handed down continuously, that Mary remained ever virgin, AND the numerous foreshadowings in the OT of Mary’s purity, I fully believe that Mary bore no other children. YMMV


46 posted on 12/05/2017 1:27:26 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Flag burners can go screw -- I'm mighty PROUD of that ragged old flag)
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To: Responsibility2nd

This claim that Jesus had blood brothers is a curious one. Why did Jesus put his Mother’s welfare into the hands of John, the Evangelist?

There are several premises regarding there so-called “brothers.” They all are relat4ed to the various women who were in the entourage which accompanied Jesus and his disciples. These women were believed to be within the circle of Jesus’s relatives. Salome, the mother of John and James the Greater was possible an older sister to Mary or a half-sister, Salome was the wife of Zebedee. Then there were the other brothers James the Less and Jude, also called Thaddeus. They were traditionally believed to be cousins of some sort to Jesus. Mary, the wife of Clopus was possibly the mother of some of the disciples.

This is found in the gnostic gospels which were not accepted into the scriptures for various reasons, yet are filled with interesting facts in the life of Mary, the choice of Joseph as a spouse for Mary, etc., her parents Joachim and Anna, etc.,

The gnostic gospels were considered to be of interest to scholars, but with some stories of miracles performed by Jesus as a boy which seemed fantastic and added nothing to the treasure of Christian belief. That is why they were rejected as important in advancing Christian doctrine.

At least that is what I learned in HS theology class.


48 posted on 12/05/2017 1:32:18 PM PST by Gumdrop (She made her bed and is now lying in it.)
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