Posted on 12/02/2017 1:37:52 AM PST by Kaslin
But that is almost a humorous irony.
Besides that, we have to read it to know what's in it. I'm "upper poor". Does this help people who cut things close and can't afford to have taxes go up even a little, without impacting local economies negatively? So many questions, so few answers.
My takeaway from watching the US Senate go through this on CSPAN.....there aren't many US Senators who are even remotely likeable.
I said MAGA is dead to me.
My taxes are going up thousands of dollars.
That is not what Trump promised the middle class.
“Sorry you are SO UPSET AND SCREAMING AT ME IN CAPITOL LETTERS!”
No you aren’t! I’m not upset with you, I am pi$$ed at you for being childish. Good or bad, this tax “reduction” needs to happen or, we might as well tell President Trump to throw in the towel! I don’t give a rat’s a$$ whether this bill is helpful to me personally or not. It may be a lousy first step, but it IS a first step. We are where we are because a lot of stupid voters have been putting their own selfish interests ahead of the bigger interests of the country as a whole. We have a bucket of cocks in both the House and the Senate, and if we let them be taken over by the RATs one more time, this country will be gone forever. It’s just that effing simple. So take your chicken little BS and sell it somewhere else. We need this “win” in order to live to fight on, because the RATs are dead serious about Communizing this Country if they get one more shot! Go get yourself a bowl of chicken soup!
“Sorry you are SO UPSET AND SCREAMING AT ME IN CAPITOL LETTERS!”
No you aren’t! I’m not upset with you, I am pi$$ed at you for being childish. Good or bad, this tax “reduction” needs to happen or, we might as well tell President Trump to throw in the towel! I don’t give a rat’s a$$ whether this bill is helpful to me personally or not. It may be a lousy first step, but it IS a first step. We are where we are because a lot of stupid voters have been putting their own selfish interests ahead of the bigger interests of the country as a whole. We have a bucket of cocks in both the House and the Senate, and if we let them be taken over by the RATs one more time, this country will be gone forever. It’s just that effing simple. So take your chicken little BS and sell it somewhere else. We need this “win” in order to live to fight on, because the RATs are dead serious about Communizing this Country if they get one more shot! Go get yourself a bowl of chicken soup!
And reconcile they shall. Some of the bothersome specifics will be weeded out as part of the compromise, others shall be kept, as a long-term irritant, but overall, this is as much of a stick in the eye to the Democrats as the Obamacare monstrosity was to the Republicans at the time.
One big difference. This legislative package stands to vastly improve the economic status of the nation, leading to GROWING support for the party that introduced it and almost single-handedly, carried it through to its final fruition.
And now, on to the infrastructure and the thorny problem of the national debt. After which, we may revisit the Obamacare repeal, which continues to implode.
In which communist state do you live that you’re blaming Trump for not having the good sense to escape sooner?
"Childish"?
How in the heck do I deserve that moniker?
By objecting to my Federal taxes being jacked up by thousands of dollars?
Come on.
This isn't a "first" step for me and millions of others who are going to be getting the shaft. Once this horrible is signed by Trump - that's it. There will be no more "tweaks" or "improvements" down the line. They won't even want to contemplate it. Ryan and McConnell needed to jam this through before more people realized how much it screwed them.
I am sorry I can't do little raise the roof or fist pumps in celebration of getting soaked by Washington.
Let me ask you this: some Freepers have posted that the elimination of the deduction for medical expenses is going to cause ruin and immense suffering for their parents or for those who are caring for a sick family member.
Do you want them to pump their fists in happiness over this bill too?
not supposed to have faith in that, but in God. He has answers for any worry or problem. Should it end up you owe more, He has answer for how you will have at least enough if not more than enough.
I’m going thru similar and have learned (after kicking and screaming against it) to just be open to adjusting to God’s way, not my own :) You get joy that way other wise you get to be miserable about not getting your own way.
So we have some of the highest corporate taxes in the world.
As a result, most corporations who can do it have fled the country or moved assests overseas.
Estimates are of trillions of dollars parked overseas because of our stupid corporate tax policy.
So, we change that, tens of millions of people benefit in this country, including nearly all who have retirement funds or any other investment in the market.
But you say this is a tax on the middle class?
Who do you think owns those corporations? Most are owned by the middle class, through retirement funds and 401Ks and the like.
Yes I know, and they will be.
Excellent!
But bargaining for a permanent tax increase in the hopes that the stock prices go higher ad infinitum is a fools wager.
The Moment Gary Cohn Realized His Entire Economic Policy Is A Disaster
The left is crapping its pants. They have ordered the news media to act. Last night they were trying to instill fear that the bill would make financial aid taxable income, complete with shots of the signs for about 10 college financial aid offices.
This will not stop. The usual jerks are going around saying “tax cuts for the rich” and “will cost the middle class money”.
Watch the jump in the stock market Monday morning, for an update on what the business community thinks about the bill.
But bargaining for a permanent tax increase in the hopes that the stock prices go higher ad infinitum is a fools wager.
I believe the corporate tax reduction is permanent.
Well, this is sausage making at it’s best...wurst? After the failure to repeal obama care I think the Republicans passing a tax reform bill is really good news. I have no doubt that it’s about as flawed as humanly possible. However, currently our tax laws are 70,000 pages and I am unable to do my own taxes. I want to see fewer deductions and exemptions with just a lower tax rate. Allowing corporations to repatriot money is great idea and I have no doubt that this bill will promote this. It is my hope that this bill will promote jobs and growth in the US. If I personally end up paying a bit more in taxes due to lost deductions and exemptions that is acceptable...if I am able to make up for it by investment growth and seeing the US economy benefit.
Oh, I am sure it will.
Let me ask you this:
Was Donald Trump correct, or wrong, when he said back in 2016 regarding stocks: "We are in a big, fat, ugly bubble!"
https://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/09/donald-trump-on-the-stock-market-its-all-a-big-bubble.html
Is Trump wrong now regarding the stock market?
I watched some of it last evening and they sure were trying their scare tactics.
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