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Vanguard Founder: GOP Tax Plan a 'Moral Abomination'
PJ Media ^ | November 30, 2017 | Karl Hetchenroeder

Posted on 12/01/2017 8:05:54 AM PST by C19fan

The Republican Party’s tax reform proposal is a “moral abomination,” retired founder of investment management firm The Vanguard Group John C. Bogle said Tuesday, the same day the Senate Budget Committee voted to advance the bill.

The proposal, which House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) vowed would slash the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 20 percent, is also an “experiential abomination,” Bogle said at the Council on Foreign Relations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bogle; gop; taxes; trumptaxplan
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1 posted on 12/01/2017 8:05:54 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

“Council of Foreign Relations.”
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Tells us all we need to know about this moron John C. Bogle.


2 posted on 12/01/2017 8:10:13 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (SCHLONGED: How Donald Trump Beat My Lying, Marxist Ass and Went On to Win the November Election. HRC)
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To: C19fan

I agree giving tax cuts to people who are trying to destroy our borders is an abomination. This is the reason wages are stagnant. when artificial intelligence wipes out 1/3 of the jobs who is going to pay to put these people on welfare? It is their fault therefore they should pay.


3 posted on 12/01/2017 8:11:32 AM PST by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Bogle is excellent regarding passive investing.

Tax, fiscal and social policy is not his profession. So he should feel free to STFU.


4 posted on 12/01/2017 8:13:02 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (IT'S OKAY TO BE WHITE.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
Yup, that is exactly what I thought.

Of course, we have FReepers who side with him and the CFR.

5 posted on 12/01/2017 8:14:05 AM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Everyone should pay taxes...certain rates up to fifty grand and then 15 percent for everyone..business included..if a business invest profit back into business no taxes..get rid of the IRS and special interest taxes


6 posted on 12/01/2017 8:15:44 AM PST by Hojczyk
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To: Uncle Miltie

This bill is nothing like what Trump proposed.
This is Ryan’s crap sandwich.
Even with Trump’s endorsement, it is still not tasty.


7 posted on 12/01/2017 8:18:45 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents - Know Islam, No Peace -No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Index Funds are Bogle’s forte’.


8 posted on 12/01/2017 8:20:08 AM PST by donozark (Where in the world is MATT LAUER??)
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To: C19fan
Bogle, a Republican, pointed to soaring U.S. corporate profits and stagnating wages to justify his opposition to the tax overhaul. According to Trading Economics, U.S. corporate profits averaged $428.9 billion between 1950 and 2017, and rose to an all-time high of $1.74 trillion in the fourth quarter of 2014.

“And we’re thinking about giving relief to the corporations at the highest levels ever,” Bogle said. “Individual wages are at the lowest level in about 15 years as a percentage of GDP. So we’re helping the people that are doing very well and doing nothing for the people that are doing very badly.”


9 posted on 12/01/2017 8:20:43 AM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

Corporate taxes are part of the cost of doing business and as such are passed on to John Q. Period. Better would be 15% as Trump originally proposed.

Companies are going to take that money and do new, better, different things with it. They’ll vast sums back from overseas. They might even give some long overdue raises. But that might not help Democrats and checked pants country club Republicans, like club fingers Bogle.

Warren Buffet probably has enough sense to keep his pie hole shut about this.


10 posted on 12/01/2017 8:30:38 AM PST by Combat_Liberalism
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation
“Council of Foreign Relations.”
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Tells us all we need to know about this moron John C. Bogle.


My thoughts as well, but let's take it a little further, and look at his politcal contributions:

http://classic.fec.gov/finance/disclosure/norindsea.shtml

Hmm...

McCain 2000. Arlen Specter. The despicable John Murtha.

These investors really are just exactly what we keep seeing: Democrats or Democrats in thin Republican clothing. They have no concept of what even is a small business or a business that produces a physical product.
11 posted on 12/01/2017 8:35:03 AM PST by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: aspasia

Corporate profits as a percentage of GDP has fluctuated in the 8% - 11% range since the end of the Great Recession. As a comparison the range was 5% - 8% from 1950 to 1980 and 4% top 6% from 1980 to 2000.


12 posted on 12/01/2017 8:43:44 AM PST by C19fan
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Employee compensation as a percentage of GDP has declined continuously from a high of 51% in 1970 to 43% today.


13 posted on 12/01/2017 8:45:57 AM PST by C19fan
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To: Lurkinanloomin

The corporate side of the reform is excellent. The personal side is decent and I actually think will force high tax states to make changes, which ultimately is good.


14 posted on 12/01/2017 9:23:59 AM PST by rb22982
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To: aspasia

None of that means anyting unless you compare it to the size of the economy, or some other meaningful yardstick. Is that even inflation adjusted?


15 posted on 12/01/2017 10:34:20 AM PST by brianr10
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To: Combat_Liberalism

“Corporate taxes are part of the cost of doing business and as such are passed on to John Q. Period. Better would be 15% as Trump originally proposed.”

And why isn’t ANYONE talking about cutting the cost of government? All this consternation about “rearranging” who pays, but absolutely no conversation ( or consideration) to eliminating ANYTHING the Federal government does. I mean listen to that Effing little Commie, Bernie Sanders the other day rattling off all the “programs” he says will be cut off because of tax cuts to the average wage earners here! And that boogie man, the rich people (who now pay most of the taxes) not paying their “fair share.” Utopia just happens with money that belonged to no one before it came into the government. It is just insanity. But Bernie still has his two or three “dachas” On Lake Champlain, and his pig of a wife who should be in jail, so he doesn’t give a rats a$$ really.


16 posted on 12/01/2017 10:45:31 AM PST by vette6387
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

And I am forced by my company to use Vanguard to manage my money. Sigh.


17 posted on 12/01/2017 11:10:02 AM PST by backwoods-engineer ( DJT won; we got Gorsuch and a bit of MAGA. Civil war before we get more?)
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To: C19fan

Bogle is full of it. I went to a job fair at Vanguard and clearly, there was no place for women over 40.


18 posted on 12/01/2017 11:26:22 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: brianr10

Thanks. I posted it because the original excerpt gave no reasons for his position.


19 posted on 12/01/2017 12:19:43 PM PST by aspasia
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To: aspasia

C19 posted other profit data against GDP,.


20 posted on 12/01/2017 12:22:30 PM PST by brianr10
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