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Elizabeth Warren's “Native American” Hoax
Townhall.com ^ | November 30, 2017 | Ashley Herzog

Posted on 11/30/2017 5:58:59 PM PST by Kaslin

Whether it's 23andMe or Ancestry.com, the proliferation of genetic testing kits is posing a real problem for the race-obsessed.

Last summer, Salon.com published an amusing article titled “Let’s enjoy the white supremacist freakout after DNA tests show they aren’t 100 percent white.”

“Many users on the white nationalist website Stormfront posted their results from genetic ancestry company 23andMe, and were unpleasantly surprised to discover that they weren't as white as they thought,” the author, Michael Glassman, wrote.

DNA doesn't lie—which is why so many white supremacists are itching to write off companies like 23andMe as a left-wing conspiracy to promote diversity.

But the liberal editors at Salon might not be so amused when DNA tests start posing a problem for a different demographic: white liberals posing as oppressed minorities. Apparently, one liberal who really needs a cheek swab is Democrat Senator Elizabeth Warren—or as President Trump prefers to call her, “Pocahontas.”

Trump made the crack at an event honoring actual Native Americans, the Navajo Code Talkers. Warren and the mainstream media feigned outrage. They informed us that “Pocahontas” is now an unspeakable racial slur, one that Trump used to insult a Native American woman.

“I really just couldn't believe it,” Warren told CNN's Anderson Cooper.

Can we challenge Warren to take a DNA test? Because I “just can't believe” that she deserved affirmative action at Harvard.

Although Warren claims she never benefited professionally from claiming to be Cherokee, journalists who dug into her background found evidence to the contrary. “The controversy surrounding her heritage began when the Boston Herald reported that Warren, then a law professor at Harvard, had listed herself as a minority in the Association of American Law Schools directory from 1986 to 1995,” Paste Magazine reported. “Harvard, it seems, specifically used her claim to bolster their diversity credentials at a time when they were being criticized for a lack of minority faculty.”

Elizabeth Warren has never produced a shred of DNA or genealogical evidence for her claims—and neither have various genealogists and historians. Instead, she relied on family folklore about a long-lost Cherokee ancestor to gain advantages that could have gone to an actual Native American woman.

What moral authority does Elizabeth Warren have to speak for Native Americans, let alone get offended on their behalf?

I speak from personal experience. I ordered my first ancestry test kit from a company called DNA Tribes way back in 2006. Despite growing up believing my mother was Irish and my father was half Polish and half German, my results revealed there was more to the story. My ancestry includes people of all colors. As Warren claims, I also descend from “native people”...of Australia. Presumably, one of my Irish ancestors ran into some trouble and landed in a prison colony in the Outback. Today, some of my closest living genetic relatives in the world are mixed-race Aborigines from Western Australia. In the land down under, these dark-skinned native people are considered “black.”

Does that make me black, too? When the Australian prime minister formally apologized to Aborigines for centuries of injustice—including the forced removal of Aboriginal children from their homes—was he apologizing to me?

Shockingly, DNA Tribes and 23andMe revealed I am, at most, only 3 percent German. It appears instead that my dad's ancestors were Spanish Jews who lived in Southern Spain for a long time, intermarrying with Catholics there, as well as Spanish Arabs. Some of my closest genetic relatives today are—surprise, surprise!--Muslim Middle Easterners, as well as self-described Latinos living in Arizona.

Was I entitled to speak for the Latino community when Arizona passed its so-called “papers, please” law in 2010? As a person of Arab descent, do I have the moral authority to comment on the Syrian refugee crisis?

The answer to all these questions is a decisive “no, of course not.” Why? Because I'm not a left-wing intellectual elitist posing as a victim of discrimination, that's why.

I am not Elizabeth Warren. I've already had the advantage of being white in America; I don't need to steal from actual minorities by trying to get affirmative action at the same time. I didn't claim to be Hispanic, Arab, or black on my college applications. Warren, on the other hand, checked the “Native American” box when she sought a job at Harvard. Like Ward Churchill, the fire-breathing leftist professor (and fake Cherokee) who called victims of 9/11 “Little Eichmanns,” she did it to gain moral authority on the left, as well as benefits intended for actual victims of discrimination.

Shouldn't we be more offended by Warren's racial scamming than by the newly designated “racial slur,” Pocahontas?


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KEYWORDS: elizabethwarren; fauxtahonta; nativeamerican
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1 posted on 11/30/2017 5:58:59 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Show me the.........chromosomes!


2 posted on 11/30/2017 6:06:24 PM PST by JusPasenThru (It is OK to be white.)
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To: Kaslin

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3 posted on 11/30/2017 6:07:04 PM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think online testing is honest - it is a rip off. They just pull the info out of their ....


4 posted on 11/30/2017 6:09:46 PM PST by New Jersey Realist ( (Be Nice To Your Kids. They Will Pick Out Your Nursing Home))
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To: Kaslin

I saw an article about those DNA tests.

They are actually very inaccurate. The DNA testing itself is extremely reliable but the determination of what groups came from where is very arbitrary and involves a lot of guesswork.


5 posted on 11/30/2017 6:10:42 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: New Jersey Realist

Its all about information collection by the uberstate. That’s why its so cheap. The value is in the data collection.


6 posted on 11/30/2017 6:24:49 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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To: New Jersey Realist
I don’t think online testing is honest - it is a rip off. They just pull the info out of their

I have gotten several DNA hits from my AncestyDNA test. They correspond exactly with the genealogy research I've done on myself for the past 60 years.

7 posted on 11/30/2017 6:26:03 PM PST by ASA Vet (Make American Intelligence Great Again.)
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To: Kaslin

In today’s world we can be anything we want to be. It may even entitle you to a special bathroom. Being Scandinavian and Italian, for many years, I’ve decide to become Chinese in my later years. I know I’m part Chinese, because I love fried rice. Who needs an unreliable DNA test to prove it?


8 posted on 11/30/2017 6:29:36 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Damn, the tag line disappeared again? Coursors!)
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To: Kaslin
This past weekend, in honor of black Friday, Ancestry.com was offering a DNA background check for $60.00. A $40.00 savings over their usual fee. Thought about it but didn't pull the trigger. My British heritage might be blemished by the fact there may be a Spaniard in the woodpile ... at least that's the rumor. ;)
9 posted on 11/30/2017 6:35:34 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: Kaslin

Present day science concludes that we have all descended from Africans. Therefore, we should all be able to fill any quota someone can dream up because of later historical developments.


10 posted on 11/30/2017 6:38:39 PM PST by JmyBryan
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Exactly, LOL


11 posted on 11/30/2017 6:38:58 PM PST by Kaslin (Quid est Veritas?: What Is Truth?)
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To: Kaslin

don’t know if or where Warren falls on this chart from Wiki she claims cherokee

Implementation[edit]
Many Native American tribes continue to employ blood quantum in current tribal laws to determine who is eligible for membership or citizenship in the tribe or Native American nation. These often require a minimum degree of blood relationship and often an ancestor listed in a specific tribal census from the late 19th century or early 20th century. The Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians of North Carolina, for example, require an ancestor listed in the 1924 Baker census and a minimum of 1/16 Cherokee blood inherited from their ancestor(s) on that roll. Meanwhile, the Cherokee Nation requires applicants to descend from an ancestor in the 1906 Dawes roll (direct lineal ancestry), but does not impose minimum blood quantum requirement. The United Keetoowah Band requires a minimum 1/4 blood quantum.
The Ute require a 5/8 blood quantum, the highest requirement of any American tribe. The Miccosukee of Florida, the Mississippi Choctaw, and the St. Croix Chippewa of Wisconsin all require one-half “tribal blood quantum”, also a high percentage.

At the other end of the scale,some tribes, such as the Kaw Nation,[27] require have no blood quantum requirement.

Many tribes, such as Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town and the Wyandotte Nation,[28] require an unspecified amount of Indian ancestry (known as “lineal descendancy”) documented by descent from a recognized member. Others require a specified degree of Indian ancestry but an unspecified share of ancestry from the ancestral tribe or tribes from which the contemporary tribal entity is derived, such as the Grand Traverse Band of Ottawa and Chippewa Indians and the Poarch Band of Creek Indians.[29] Many tribes today are confederations of different ethnic groups joined into a single political entity making the determination of blood quantum challenging.

Other tribes require a minimum blood degree only for tribal members born “off” (outside) the nominal reservation. This is a concept comparable to the legal principles of Jus soli and Jus sanguinis in the nationality laws of modern sovereign states.

Tribes requiring 1/2 degree blood quantum for membership[edit]
(equivalent to one parent)
Chippewa Cree, Montana[30]
Kialegee Tribal Town[28]
Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida
Mississippi Band of Choctaw Indians, Mississippi
St. Croix Chippewa Indians of Wisconsin
Pueblo of Isleta, New Mexico
White Mountain Apache Tribe, Arizona
Yomba Shoshone Tribe, Nevada[31]
Tribes requiring 1/4 degree blood quantum for membership[edit]
(equivalent to one grandparent)
Absentee-Shawnee Tribe of Indians, Oklahoma[28]
Ak-Chin Indian Community, Arizona[32]
Blackfeet Tribe of the Blackfeet Indian Reservation of Montana[33]
Cheyenne and Arapaho Tribes, Oklahoma[28]
Confederated Tribes and Bands of the Yakama Nation, Washington
Confederated Tribes of the Chehalis Reservation, Washington[34]
Ho-Chunk Nation of Wisconsin[35] Wisconsin
Hopi Tribe of Arizona
Kickapoo Traditional Tribe of Texas[36]
Kickapoo Tribe of Oklahoma, Oklahoma[28]
Kiowa Tribe of Oklahoma, Oklahoma[28]
Fort McDowell Yavapai Nation, Arizona
Fort Peck Assiniboine and Sioux Tribes, Montana
Mohawk Tribe, New York and Ontario/Quebec, Canada
Navajo Nation, Arizona, Utah and New Mexico
Oneida Tribe of Indians, Wisconsin
Pascua Yaqui Tribe, Arizona
Penobscot Nation, Maine
Poarch Band of Creek Indians, Alabama
Prairie Band Potawatomi Nation, Kansas[37]
Seminole Tribe of Florida, Florida
Shoshone Tribe of the Wind River Reservation, Wyoming[38]
Standing Rock Sioux Tribe, North and South Dakota
United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians, Oklahoma[28]
Utu Utu Gwaitu Paiute Tribe, California[39]
Yavapai-Prescott Tribe, Arizona
Zuni Pueblo (Ashiwi), New Mexico[40]

Tribes requiring 1/8 degree blood quantum for membership[edit]
(equivalent to one great-grandparent)
Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians, California[41]
Apache Tribe of Oklahoma[28]
Comanche Nation, Oklahoma[28]
Delaware Nation, Oklahoma[28]
Confederated Tribes of the Siletz Reservation, Oregon
Fort Sill Apache Tribe of Oklahoma
Hooopa Valley Tribe of California
Karuk Tribe of California
Klamath Tribes, Oregon[42]
Muckleshoot Indian Tribe of the Muckleshoot Reservation, Washington
Northwestern Band of Shoshoni Nation of Utah (Washakie)
Otoe-Missouria Tribe of Indians, Oklahoma[43]
Pawnee Nation of Oklahoma[28]
Ponca Nation, Oklahoma[28]
Sac and Fox Nation, Oklahoma[28]
Sac & Fox Nation of Missouri in Kansas and Nebraska
Squaxin Island Tribe of the Squaxin Island Reservation, Washington
Suquamish Indian Tribe of the Port Madison Reservation, Washington
Three Affiliated Tribes of the Fort Berthold Reservation
Upper Skagit Indian Tribe of Washington
Yurok Tribe of California
Wichita and Affiliated Tribes (Wichita, Keechi, Waco and Tawakonie)[28]
Tribes requiring 1/16 degree blood quantum for membership[edit]
(equivalent to one great-great-grandparent)
Caddo Nation[28]
Confederated Tribes of the Grand Ronde Community of Oregon
Confederated Tribes of Siletz Indians
Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, North Carolina
Fort Independence Indian Community of Paiute Indians of the Fort Independence Reservation, California[44]
Fort Sill Apache Tribe[28]
Iowa Tribe of Oklahoma[28]

Tribes determining membership by lineal descent[edit]
These tribes do not have a minimum blood quantum requirement, but members must be able to document descent from original enrollees of tribal rolls.
Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas[45]
Alabama-Quassarte Tribal Town[28]
Aroostook Band of Micmac, Maine[46]
Cherokee Nation[28]
Chickasaw Nation[28]
Choctaw Nation[28]
Citizen Potawatomi Nation[28]
Delaware Tribe of Indians[28]
Eastern Shawnee Tribe[28]
Kaw Nation[27]
Mashantucket Pequot Tribe of Connecticut[47]
Mashpee Wampanoag Tribe of Massachusetts
Miami Tribe of Oklahoma[28]
Mohegan Tribe of Connecticut
Modoc Tribe[28]
Muscogee Creek Nation[28]
Narragansett Indian Tribe of Rhode Island
Osage Nation[28]
Ottawa Tribe of Oklahoma[28]
Peoria Tribe of Indians[28]
Quapaw Tribe of Oklahoma[28]
Sault Ste. Marie Tribe of Chippewa Indians of Michigan
Seminole Nation[28]
Seneca-Cayuga Tribe of Oklahoma[28]
Shawnee Tribe[28]
Shinnecock Indian Nation[28]
Thlopthlocco Tribal Town[28]
Tonkawa Tribe[28]
Wyandotte Nation[28]

Tribes determining membership by both blood quantum and lineal descent[edit]
These tribes require both a specified blood quantum and lineal descent from an individual on a designated tribal roll.
Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation – Since 1993, have required 1/4 descent from any federally recognized Native American tribe, plus being the biological child or grandchild of an already-enrolled member.[48]
Little Traverse Bay Bands of Odawa Indians
Little River Band of Ottawa Indians


12 posted on 11/30/2017 6:42:52 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Kaslin

What’s really should kill the racial grievance industry is the fact that God created 1 race. All racial differences are a product of adaptation and population isolation.

Always wondered what color skin Adam and Eve had, and what language they spoke.


13 posted on 11/30/2017 6:44:41 PM PST by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Kaslin

DNA doesn’t lie, but you have to know how to read it.

There are 23 chromosomes with hundreds of genes on each strand. A baby gets one full half-strand of each chromosome from each parent -— like a ladder coming apart at the center of each rung (:). But here is where it gets interesting. The chromosomes sometimes, OK often, cross over on themselves so that the top part and the bottom part change sides:

A-B-C-D-E-F-G ==> A-B-C-D-X-Y-Z
: - : - : - : - : - : -: ==> : - : - : - : - : - : -:
T-U-V-W-X-Y-Z ==> T-U-V-W-E-F-G

You only get one half-strand, either top or bottom, from each parent. But according to the law of independent assortment, you may get a variety of pieces of DNA from each parent on the 23 half-chromosomes you get from each -— depending on how many crossovers occurred on each whole chromosome before they split into half-strands.

So, if one parent is absolutely half-whatever, and that marker that the DNA testing is looking for is X-Y-Z, as you can see above you would be 1/4 that whatever by heritage, but also have a 50/50 chance you are -0- by DNA depending on which half-strand made it into your own personal genome.

Clear as mud???


14 posted on 11/30/2017 6:48:34 PM PST by LTC.Ret
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To: Kaslin
“Many users on the white nationalist website Stormfront posted their results from genetic ancestry company 23andMe, and were unpleasantly surprised to discover that they weren't as white as they thought,”

++++

I’m certainly no White Supremist, not by a long shot. In fact the more I watch Steph Curry blatantly copy my moves to the basket and particularly my shooting style the more I’ve come to believe that we share some distant DNA.


15 posted on 11/30/2017 6:54:33 PM PST by InterceptPoint (Ted, you finally endorsed. About time)
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To: yarddog
The most accurate tests are the blood tests. The spit tests give a good approximation and are good to get an idea going.

One of the morning shows did the 23 and Ancestry spit tests on identical twins and it came back that they were related closely but their percentages were different - meaning that they both were Spanish but one twin was 30% and the other was 32%.

They did a blood tests on a set of identical triplets and their percentages came back as identical.

So, if people are initially interested they can do the spit test, but if they want a completely accurate result they can do the blood test.

16 posted on 11/30/2017 6:55:09 PM PST by Slyfox (Are you tired of winning yet?)
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To: morphing libertarian

Thanks for the post. Generally, the western Indians had late white contact and have higher quantum requirements. The principal chiefs of some of the eastern tribes were 1/2 or less as early as the 1820’s. Their own children and grandchildren couldn’t belong to their own tribe under the strict western rules if their parents married “out.”

Casino money is another issue that has driven high blood quantum requirements in some of the smaller tribes.


17 posted on 11/30/2017 7:02:34 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

I think the Pechangas (In Temecula CA) had a 1/16yj blood requirement. But when they built the casino they wouldn’t let anyone new in. I think they lost maybe in court 5 years later.

I don’t know which tribe Warren claims there are a few cherokees, but I see requirements like 1/1 and 1/8 and I think she claimed 1/32. This could easily be resolved and I don’t know why it hasn’t tribes have rolls of their members.


18 posted on 11/30/2017 7:07:04 PM PST by morphing libertarian (A proud member of the Ruthie Bader Afternoon Nap Club)
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To: Kaslin
The amount of DNA you inherit from more remote ancestors can vary considerably--it is very random and after enough generations have passed there will be some ancestors which you have no DNA from at all...but they are still your ancestors and if they had died without offspring you wouldn't exist.

I have done DNA testing with 7 different companies and the results vary widely...in some cases giving me very implausible or even impossible answers, and even the more plausible ones don't match the percentages I would expect from my genealogical researches.

The problem with European DNA is that it is hard to tell the DNA from nearby countries apart...and the DNA companies' estimates may be skewed by the fact that so many of their customers are Americans and so countries which sent a lot of emigrants to America are overrepresented in the DNA results.

When they tell you a match is "third cousin" or "fourth cousin" that has to be taken with a grain of salt--they probably are related but could be closer or more distant than what you are being told.

19 posted on 11/30/2017 7:07:19 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Kaslin

I see by their TV ads that 23andMe are suggesting their kits be given as Christmas gifts this year - we need a group to put some money together to send one such kit to Sen. Warren to make her Christmas cheery and bright - let her put up or shut up.....


20 posted on 11/30/2017 7:08:18 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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