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Limiting president’s ability to launch an atomic first strike is appealing, but would be a bad idea
The Hawaii Tribune Herald ^ | November 25, 2017 | The Los Angeles Times

Posted on 11/26/2017 5:31:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Alarmed by President Donald Trump’s bellicose statements and impulsive governing style, two congressional Democrats introduced legislation that would prohibit the president — any president — from launching a nuclear first strike without a declaration of war by Congress explicitly endorsing such an attack.

In seeking to restrict the president’s authority to launch a first strike, the Restricting First Use of Nuclear Weapons Act of 2017 proposed by Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts and Rep. Ted Lieu of Torrance cites Congress’ authority under the Constitution to declare war. The legislation says the Framers understood “the monumental decision to go to war … must be made by the representatives of the people and not by a single person.”

The problem is that Congress’ authority to declare war has always been in tension with the Constitution’s designation of the president as commander in chief, a role that sometimes requires the president to act swiftly to defend the nation. The nuclear age further complicated the relationship between the two branches because decisions about launching a nuclear attack might have to be made under severe time pressure.

A main concern about this bill is that it would make it harder for a president not just to use nuclear weapons but also deter aggression by leaving adversaries in doubt about whether and when such weapons might be used. This ambiguity is part of the paradoxical policy of nuclear deterrence that traces back to the Cold War era....

(Excerpt) Read more at hawaiitribune-herald.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: congress; democrats; korea; trump
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1 posted on 11/26/2017 5:31:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now they’re “alarmed”. I don’t recall them ever being “alarmed” when the employee of the Muslim brotherhood was releasing 200 Jihadis from Gitmo over 8 years, or importing MS-13 gang members - the ISIS of South America - into the USA.


2 posted on 11/26/2017 5:35:37 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Trump: Greatest POTUS of all time solely for preventing Satan from taking office.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I better get to work on my bomb shelter right away.


3 posted on 11/26/2017 5:36:09 AM PST by Leep (Less talk more ACTiON!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yes, and it would have been so much better with President Abedin having access to the nuclear code, eh?


4 posted on 11/26/2017 5:36:31 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("If I had to go to war again, I'd bring lacrosse players" Conn Smythe)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why even have a CINC then? Can you imagine a war that couldn’t be initiated until Congress decided it was OK? They would be rounded up by the conquering enemy even as they sat arguing about whether or not it was OK to fight and what restrictions could be put on us to insure the enemy was treated fairly and with respect....


5 posted on 11/26/2017 5:47:36 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now they want to rewrite the constitution... again.


6 posted on 11/26/2017 5:48:49 AM PST by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: OttawaFreeper

Hillary would sleep right through a nuke attack on the US if it happened after Tiddly time.


7 posted on 11/26/2017 5:56:34 AM PST by digger48
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Or the pallets of cold cash delivered free of change to Iran.


8 posted on 11/26/2017 5:59:17 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: digger48

“Hillary would sleep right through a nuke attack on the US if it happened after Tiddly time.”

Hopefully, Huma would have woke her up...


9 posted on 11/26/2017 6:02:00 AM PST by snoringbear (,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

That’s be harder than waking a snoring bear : )


10 posted on 11/26/2017 6:04:27 AM PST by digger48
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To: digger48

Can you imagine the chaos that would happen if such a restriction were to be placed on ANY POTUS while waiting for those “do nothings” to debate the next action?


11 posted on 11/26/2017 6:06:53 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They know that their ‘legislation’ will not go anywhere. That is not their intent. Their intent is to sow doubt among the people who need to carry out Trump’s orders...so maybe they don’t do as told.

Sounds a lot like TREASON, at least to me.


12 posted on 11/26/2017 6:17:57 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: DaveA37

If it ever got to the point where any POTUS was considering a launch there is a good chance that the swamp had been or was about to be vaporized. Then who would authorize the launch?


13 posted on 11/26/2017 6:22:20 AM PST by hardspunned
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To: trebb
"Why even have a CINC then? Can you imagine a war that couldn’t be initiated until Congress decided it was OK?"

I know what you are saying, but the Constitution reserves the right to declare war to the Congress. Congress chose to abdicate their authority through the War Powers Act.

14 posted on 11/26/2017 6:30:01 AM PST by buckalfa (Slip sliding away towards senility.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No problem with the a##hat having this power yet trump comes in and they have a problem


15 posted on 11/26/2017 6:30:19 AM PST by ronnie raygun (Trump plays chess the rest are still playing checkers)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What these a$$holes don’t get is that bellicose posturing is done to avoid war. Just observe male moose and how they try to intimidate the other, rather than actually fight.


16 posted on 11/26/2017 6:34:48 AM PST by I want the USA back (Cynicism may just keep you from going insane in a world that has chosen its own demise.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

His ability can’t be limited. The President is commander
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A president developed and approved the current procedure The current president can abolish or modify but likely will not without the advise of his military


17 posted on 11/26/2017 6:36:31 AM PST by Thibodeaux (whites seem to actually be supreme)
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It’s not a good idea for anyone to be able to authorize a nuclear first strike. The reason the President always has ready access to the nuke codes is to be able to retaliate in case of a surprise attack or if missiles/bombers are inbound. Perhaps a majority vote of a panel of carefully selected advisors. Even so I certainly wouldn’t put that decision in the hands of Congress.


18 posted on 11/26/2017 6:49:16 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: Thibodeaux

The military has enough problems with one commander in chief. Imagine what it would be like with 435.


19 posted on 11/26/2017 6:49:56 AM PST by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

- Mr. President! We have confirmeation that Iran has launched 24 nuclear armed ICBM's at the US.

- How much time do we have before they arrive?

- We have less than 30 minutes to retaliate sir.

- Better call congress into session and get a declaration of war.

- Congress is on break - everyone is away on vacation.

- Hmmm.....

- What do we do now sir?

- Okay - Bend over, stick your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye.


20 posted on 11/26/2017 6:50:35 AM PST by Vlad The Inhaler (United We Stand - Divided We Fall. Remember: Diversity is the opposite of unity.)
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