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To: Democratic-Republican

All of you claiming that president hillary Clinton can fire an fbi director no matter the circumstances and face no repercussions just amaze me.


176 posted on 11/23/2017 8:53:06 PM PST by RummyChick (I have no inside sources, media sources, or federal government employee sources. NONE)
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To: RummyChick
All of you claiming that president hillary Clinton can fire an fbi director no matter the circumstances and face no repercussions just amaze me.

You, claiming that the FBI director and the AG don't answer to the president on all of their matters, amazes me.

So again, I will ask you, who do they answer to?

Nobody? The Deep State?

184 posted on 11/23/2017 9:21:03 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: RummyChick
All of you claiming that president hillary Clinton can fire an fbi director no matter the circumstances and face no repercussions just amaze me.

Ummm, no problem with that whatsoever. I would practically expect nothing less, including all the US Attorneys like they did do. Then I would expect the spineless Congress to take a dive for things like Ruby Ridge and Waco, like they did do. It is a lawless government indeed.

But restoring lawful order certainly does not mean becoming more unlawful by denying the President, including Hillary ability to fire their employees. Knowing her, she would not just fire FBI director, but her sycophants would threaten and bribe ( and kill ) witnesses. That is where you bust them, not this fiction of obstruction and unconstitutional attempt at limiting the President.

This is what the corrupt 'radical Republican' Congress did to Andrew Johnson, almost exactly with the Tenure Of Office Act and almost removed him. The crass attempt was damaging to the President and later determined invalid by the Supreme Court in a similar case. Listen carefully, there is no possible restriction, no debate, on the President firing the FBI director.

So the enemy is thereby reduced to saying yeah he can fire him but it smells like obstruction to me, which goes nowhere in law, and dies in the House, especially now as the dead bodies pile high from sex scandals.

But like nixon...he may get nailed on the cover up..in this case..obstruction

The scandal was about the coverup, true, but not his potential impeachment, at least we can never be sure. Remember, when Goldwater and the others visited him the supposedly said 'certain impeachment' so he should resign. I'm not so sure that they would go there and suggest he resign if it was so certain, and I highly doubt 67 Senators in 1974 would convict him, maybe 1977 yes. Nixon just won the 3rd biggest landslide ever, massive, coast to coast, and there would have been a big bloody fight and lots of collateral damage to Congress for that coup which was conveniently avoided by his resignation and pardon. Don't read wikipedia which just parrots the Washington Compost tidy little bow-wrapped story about his support vanishing. It was inside-the-beltway groupthink then and still is today.

I remember Nixon voters becoming very angry over this coup. I guarantee you that if a tougher guy than Ford had ran in 1976 then Carter would have been beaten ( surprisingly Ford narrowly lost ) but then again, we would not have gotten Reagan in four years later had 1976 not given us Carter. In other words, the so-called 'vanishing support' would have shown up in spades and delivered payback. Looking back, I believe the pardon was solely to tamp down the cries of coup and to restore regular order in the District Of Criminals. This is why so many of us called Nixon a coward for resigning rather than fighting the communist (D)ummycrats. The damage he did was enormous in empowering the enemy. But he had terrible advisers, primarily no-one to stop him from believing a coverup was remotely a good idea.

Point is, many people are repeating the exact same beltway groupthink they did then. They really have no clue down there what we think of them. And the New York Slimes and Washington Compost makes sure that they remain in the dark. If you are not a troll ( c'mon, you gotta admit these posts of yours sure look that way ) then you are probably someone just paranoid and supremely worried they will pull another Nixon coup. It is surely mathematically possible given the (D)ummie plus (R)ino herds grazing the swamp, and Trump's base is surely in less proportion than Nixon's was, however, don't take the wrong lesson from Nixon up front from the Enemedia. We'll simply never know if he could have survived, and his voters sure as hell believed it at the time.

Trump is likely the smartest person in that office yet, and most streetwise, and he was tight with Roy Cohn which means he knows all about Tailgunner Joe and the domestic enemy and Enemedia cabal who took him down, and he knows Roger Stone and others who are well acquainted with the silent coup. All these lessons are known to him. Stop worrying, or stop trolling. They won't get him on this fantasy. Now if he fires Mueller or defies the stupid Ninth Circus rulings, then all bets are off. But those carefully planned traps are freakin obvious to anyone with a brain.

217 posted on 11/23/2017 10:16:03 PM PST by Democratic-Republican
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