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Vista Outdoor on .22 Ammo: Supply up, Demand Down, Price Down
Ammoland ^ | 20 November, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 11/23/2017 9:11:33 AM PST by marktwain

The new .22 rimfire plant in Lewiston, Idaho, is on line. Vista Outdoors owns the CCI and Federal rimfire brands. They have increased production for both brands by 20 percent.

With end of the Obama administration, the .22 ammunition bubble is deflating. Most stores have ammunition available. Prices are coming down.

From the Lewiston Tribune, November 10th, 2017:

Parts of Vista's approach have worked well, such as investing in infrastructure and preserving market share, Metz said.

Vista recently debuted a new, 37,000-square-foot, $35 million rimfire ammunition plant near the Lewiston-Nez Perce County Regional Airport, which has resulted in what company officials describe as a “very satisfying” reduction in the time needed to complete an order.

“It pays dividends when you come out of the trough,” Metz said. “We're able to make some changes in our facilities that will enable us to participate really strongly as the market returns.”

Vista Outdoor has reduced ammunition prices to maintain market share as its customers work through stockpiles they amassed under the administration of Barack Obama – when they feared new regulation that never came to pass.”We're the market leader in rimfire,” Nolan said. “Brand preference in ammunition tends to be somewhat sticky. It took us a long time to gain our market share. … We are loathe to cede that during a period of challenging pricing because it's going to be very difficult to get that back.”

The ammunition manufacturers, such as Vista Outdoors, do not want to lower prices. As with any manufacturer, life is easy and smooth when both prices and demand are high. But the market does not guarantee that prices and demand will remain high. Only force, in the form of government granted monopolies, or collusion, as with the OPEC cartel, can do that.

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KEYWORDS: 22lr; ammo; ammoseek; banglist; price; vistaoutdoor
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To: marktwain

I shoot NRA style bullseye target in the summer league at my local gun club. I favor CCI 22 L.R. Standard Velocity and while a box of 50 is still pricey, it usually available at the local stores that carry ammo. The .22 drought seems to be over.


41 posted on 11/23/2017 6:00:47 PM PST by RicocheT (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: RicocheT

CCI Standard...
Do you find it a more
consistent round
than CCI MINIMAG?
What do You shoot?
I’m trying to get something my
RUGER REVOLVER likes.
6 inch GP100.


42 posted on 11/23/2017 7:08:35 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: marktwain
 
 
A big 'ole pile of .22 at a Academy Sports & Outdoors in the Heart 'o Texas - some .17 at the top left, .223 at bottom right, but even more .22 out of camera shot to the center right. Prices could come down a bit more, though.
 
 
 
 

43 posted on 11/23/2017 7:22:08 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: marktwain

Still can’t find CCI stingers.


44 posted on 11/23/2017 7:23:58 PM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: Jim Noble

Stingers here in SoCal.
What firearm do you use them in?


45 posted on 11/23/2017 7:37:23 PM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger

Walther P22


46 posted on 11/24/2017 1:02:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Single payer is coming. Which kind do you like)
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To: marktwain

Local Wal-Mart actually had an ample supply last Wednesday. An unusual event. I restrained myself and only bought half of what they had.


47 posted on 11/24/2017 1:29:01 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: Lurker; MileHi

Yep ..... won’t be caught short again in my lifetime......


48 posted on 11/24/2017 2:02:11 AM PST by Squantos (Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: Squantos

I’ll start getting nervous when I’m down to 12,000 or so.

L


49 posted on 11/24/2017 7:16:13 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: marktwain

Prices will keep coming down......stock up while it is cheap. The idiocy of the Voting public will raise its head again. Ammo will last your lifetime and your children’s and their children’s if stored correctly.


50 posted on 11/24/2017 4:10:04 PM PST by Envisioning (Carry safe, always carry, everyday, everywhere.)
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To: Envisioning

Yes. Ammo stored in relative cool, dry place should last for a hundred years.

How low do you see the price going?


51 posted on 11/24/2017 5:49:40 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
How are .22 prices in your area?

$30 and change for a 333-round box of Federal LRHP, at the local hardware store. The local farm supply shop has been running 9mm parabellum ball ammo for under $10 a box, but not .22-yet. I'm waiting to see after the first of the New Year to see if a sale on rimfire for all those Christmas presents comes next.

FYI, those stocking up may wish to make note of two interesting container facts: As older cardboard *brick* 500-round containers become old and crumbly due to the acid content in the cardboard, they can pretty neatly be replaced with 16-ounce [empty!] peanut butter jars, which hold 500 rounds so nicely they might have been designed for the task. Those who buy poly bagged or bucketful .22 ammo may also find this info helpful.

Also: if those 500-round bricks of .22 ammo are not crumbly and deteriorating, ten of them package nicely in a ex-military M2A1 *.50 caliber* ammo can. It helps if the ammo is broken down into the 50 round boxes; it's a bit tight, but 5000 rounds will indeed fit- if they're in the cardboard 50-round boxes.


52 posted on 11/25/2017 10:19:25 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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A freind of mine has many thousands of rounds of .22 in sealed quart canning jars. They have been in them for 60 years, and seem to work fine.

He used them in a monumental rat hunt in 1957.

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/05/wi-recond-rat-hunt-in-wisconsin-in-1957.html


53 posted on 11/25/2017 11:11:03 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: marktwain
He used them in a monumental rat hunt in 1957.

He should have saved them for a monumental rat hunt in the former District of Columbia swamp in 2018. Or thereabouts.

54 posted on 12/02/2017 10:14:24 AM PST by archy (Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. Except bears, they'll kill you a little, then eat you.)
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To: archy

He has many thousands left...

I do not know how many thousands...


55 posted on 12/02/2017 10:49:44 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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