Posted on 11/22/2017 6:57:42 AM PST by Zakeet
Complete Headline: Missing Argentine submarine 'is located by US Navy and a new sonar signal heard' as rescuers race to the spot with oxygen due to run out imminently
The missing Argentine submarine may have been located early this morning, after a US Navy aircraft allegedly detected a 'heat stain' from 230ft below the surface, some 185miles from the coast, and a rescue vessel separately reported hearing a sonar signal.
The ARA San Juan was sailing from Ushuaia to Mar del Plata when it disappeared with 44 crew members last Wednesday, including Argentina's first female submariner Eliana Krawczyk, 35, and Luis Niz, 25, who is due to get married in two weeks time.
The crew's oxygen supply was due to run out this morning as they only had enough on board to last seven days - leaving the international rescue mission racing against time to the spot where the signals were detected.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Continuing prayers for our personnel and theirs...
Prayers up for a safe rescue with no loss of life.
I cant believe they do not have some individualized emergency assent technique for only 230 feet. But then again, perhaps cost cutting.
The USN developed the Deep Submergence Rescue Vehicle (DSRV). Entering service during the 1970s the DSRV, a manned mini-sub that mates with a DISSUB’s hatch and could carry 24 people at a time, offered great flexibility.
“Even if we get them out they will still hate our guts”. Reminded, in a different context, of when the US had airbase and naval base in Iceland to protect against the USSR. The leftists parties had agitated for years to get us out; when the US left the bases in the 1990s, they were complaining we had left them defenseless since Iceland had no army or navy.
This article is from the 19th - I posted it on another thread. In the article, they describe some of the resources that the US Navy has for rescuing trapped submariners .....
From link:
On Saturday, the Undersea Rescue Comand, or URC, shipped out two “independent rescue assets” from San Diego en route to the Southern Atlantic, where the Argentine Navy lost communications with one of its submarines. They are expected to arrive on Sunday, officials said.
The highly trained American sailors will employ advanced technology on the Submarine Rescue Chamber, or SRC, which has already been in touch with the family members of the 44 on board, and will utilize an underwater system called Remotely Operated Vehicle, or ROV. It can climb down to depths of 850-feet and pull to safety “up to six persons at a time,” the Pentagon officials said.
The sailors will also be relying on Pressurized Rescue Module, or PRM, which can rescue “up to 16 personnel at a time ... by sealing over the submarine’s hatch allowing sailors to safely transfer to the recuse chamber,” according to officials.
The American reinforcements will join the Navy’s P-8A Poseidon multi-mission maritime aircraft and a NASA P-3 research aircraft that have been assisting the ongoing search for the ARA San Juan, a German-built TR 1700 class diesel-electric submarine.
Remember, the gold standard is a ride home on Air Force One so if we are really expecting thanks we'll have to be prepared to provide that.
The good ‘old’ Glomar Explorer could have brought it up intact.
scrapped in China...alas
Wasn't MH370 found several times, actually they thought they found it but never did?
Why can't they get off the bottom? Lack of compressed air to blow the tanks? Flooded compartments, such that the boat can't rise even with tanks blown? Valve/air/control system failure?
How far away is help, and what is the ETA?
How soon could we know if anyone is still alive down there?
Back when this story broke, the Argentine Navy said Brit and US help was unwelcome because neither navy possessed the technology to locate their submarine underwater ...
HAHAHa
Egg on face ...
Don't talk to Lavar Ball!
Gray Lady Down
Same here. I always wondered how they could have so many high quality pictures while other sites with big budgets etc. (NYT, WaPo, USA Today) only have about 1 pic per story if that.
Everyone hates us. We help them anyway.
That's grace.
WoooHooo.
There's always hope but with each passing hour it's more and more likely that no one survived. The sea is a cruel mistress. Very sad.
Not the individual sailors who are rescued. They'll love us. But you're probably right about their politicians.
And the law of the sea is that you render aid if possible, regardless of who needs it. Even if they were Iranians or NORKs, we would help.
DSRV to the h rescue. Hopefully in time.
“...No electricity to run the pumps to evacuate the ballast tanks. ... we have divers that can go 230 feet down but not for long, since the decompression takes hours. ...”
Ballast tank blow used to be performed by compressed air, held in reserve tanks. Worked faster than pumps, less prone to malfunction, doesn’t require electrical power as long as manual valve operation is possible by backup means. I stress “used to be” - haven’t checked into sub design & construction for some time.
Rigid dive suits capable of going to depths of 1000 feet or more have been in operation for decades. Think of spacesuits, in reverse.
This boat was built by a German yard but has been in the Argentine fleet for some 30 years and is the youngest sub they have. Anything is possible after such a long time in the hands of a Third World country.
Out in the middle of the ocean and sitting at 230 feet down? Unlikely to the extreme. The ocean that far out is many times that deep.
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